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Buddee - 22 Nov 2003 22:45 GMT Ok, I have lowbody fat, always have. I noticed around 4-5 years ago that I actually had to start eating right because my youthfull metabolism was slowing down, (I'm 28 now). I work out and eat very well now, lots of protein, whole grains, no refined sugar, get plenty of vitamins and minerals, etc. To me, being fit has always just seemed to be the obvious thing to do. My question is...I see fat people everywhere, how does this happen? I truly don't understand how somebody can let themsleves get to the point of obesity. I'm not talking about the folks with glandular issues or other medical related obesity problems, I'm talking about those who eat too much crap and don't exercise. With all the benefits of being fit; health, self image, being treated better, attractiveness, etc, I don't understand why there is such an epidemic in north america.
Again, I really do not mean this in a mean way to anybody who is overweight or obese. I am simply curious and would like to understand the problem better.
Buddee.
Wendy - 22 Nov 2003 22:43 GMT > My question is...I see fat people everywhere, how does this > happen? I truly don't understand how somebody can let themsleves get to the [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > self image, being treated better, attractiveness, etc, I don't understand > why there is such an epidemic in north america. Well, one reason is that not everyone thinks the same way you do. They value different things. If what they value is greasy food, the entertainment value of eating pringles and watching tv, in lounging around with friends in the livingroom, in drinking beer and hanging loose, well they will become fat. In olden days a monarch was expected to be fat: that's the life of riches and leisure.
Some people consider that vanity is a sin. Being obsessive about your workout needs doesn't fit with everyone's life. For example, I got fat by exercising less and sustaining multiple blows to my metabolism associated with pregnancy and the subsequent subsummation of my life to the children. It's not like one day I had trouble fitting in my jeans, it's more like for 9 months I wore maternity clothes and my body wasn't shaped the same ever-after and I didn't have time or energy to do anything about it.
You saw your pants getting tight and several things came together:
You cared and considered it a problem. You realized that you needed to eat less. You knew how to eat less and still be satisfied on those foods. You changed your habits.
If any one of those four steps were different then you would have had a different outcome.
Wendy
Ignoramus29540 - 22 Nov 2003 23:20 GMT > Ok, I have lowbody fat, always have. I noticed around 4-5 years ago that I > actually had to start eating right because my youthfull metabolism was [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > or obese. I am simply curious and would like to understand the problem > better. Good question. I was fat too. I did not have any special issues, except that I take thyroid supplements. I suspect that my thyroid made me a little unbalanced. Still, obviously, I gained weight because I ate too much, but I was lacking some self regulation.
How did it happen? I liked to eat a little too much and I exercised too little. Sort of, I was in denial about my weight and ignored it. Tried to lose it once, starved myself and gave up.
I wish it was more complicated, apparently some individuals here are much more complex in regards to weight issues. But to me it was liking to eat too much, and eating wrong food, and sedentary lifestyle.
i 223/177/180
Chris Braun - 23 Nov 2003 00:20 GMT Well -- just a short answer to a complex question: In my case -- and in that of many people I know -- appearance and fitness have now always been major concerns. My self-image has, for most of my life, been more invested in being smart and successful. And being overweight didn't have a significant impact on that self-image. It was only after I got involved in weight-lifting (whole long story that I won't recount now) that I became concerned with other aspects of fitness and appearance.
Many of my friends and colleagues (mostly all in the computer/engineering business) have a similar mindset.
Chris 262/172/???
Chris Braun - 23 Nov 2003 00:32 GMT >Well -- just a short answer to a complex question: In my case -- and >in that of many people I know -- appearance and fitness have now >always been major concerns. Correcting myself: that should say, "have NOT always been major concerns"!
Chris
Ignoramus29540 - 23 Nov 2003 02:04 GMT > Well -- just a short answer to a complex question: In my case -- and > in that of many people I know -- appearance and fitness have now [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > Chris > 262/172/??? Your summary would be accurate in regards to myself as well.
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Buddee - 23 Nov 2003 05:48 GMT Actually I'm in the computer special effects field myslef.
Buddee.
> Well -- just a short answer to a complex question: In my case -- and > in that of many people I know -- appearance and fitness have now [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > Chris > 262/172/??? Chris Braun - 23 Nov 2003 06:17 GMT >Actually I'm in the computer special effects field myslef. > >Buddee. One difference between us is that I'm much older than you are -- 55. And most of my friends are at least 40. Perhaps there's a different mindset among younger people than among those who grew up in my generation? Though I see just as many overweight younger people as older ones.
Chris
Patricia Heil - 23 Nov 2003 00:12 GMT Because people are taught that they don't have to make hard decisions, somebody will come up with a pill to fix whatever is wrong with them. Hence all the people who take pills to lose weight -- and wind up sick one way or another.
Behind it is the notion that if people know how to make hard decisions, they won't buy 80% of the things American commerce wants to make money from.
Read back through the postings and you will see not only spam but also some postings from people who have bought the fantasy.
> Ok, I have lowbody fat, always have. I noticed around 4-5 years ago that I > actually had to start eating right because my youthfull metabolism was [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > > Buddee. Ignoramus29540 - 23 Nov 2003 02:05 GMT > Because people are taught that they don't have to make hard > decisions, somebody will come up with a pill to fix whatever > is wrong with them. Hence all the people who take pills to > lose weight -- and wind up sick one way or another. Or they could not be ready YET. If I read your post a year ago, I would be one of "those people", fitting me to the "t".
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Susan Jones-Anderson - 23 Nov 2003 07:21 GMT For me.. It's much like being an alcoholic or an addict. How does an addict become an addict? Because they think they can control it even if it's "just this once" - Since some serious self discovery I have learned that I can not take that path. There is no "just one snickers bar" for me, or "I'll skip working out just this once" It *has* to be a reasonable conscious effort on my part on a daily basis to stop all those bad habits and replace them with good. It's getting easier yes.. but it is still a very prevalent part of my day. To make good choices that will eventually get me to a goal, and I'm not talking about a physical goal alone but a mental and spiritual one as well. I don't know if this is how it is for others. But that's how it is for me.
Susan 260/202/160
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> Ok, I have lowbody fat, always have. I noticed around 4-5 years ago that I > actually had to start eating right because my youthfull metabolism was [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > > Buddee. Perple Gyrl - 24 Nov 2003 14:23 GMT It is the same for me.... With cigs and food and other issues I am working through. Just one cig won't work. I used to do that with my sister, by just bumming one every now and then when I would do a quit. Before I would know it, I would be smoking at full force again. I can't eat one cookie, I had to eat the whole box. For me, it is definately addiction and comfort. I am taking it day by day now and eating better and working out hard 4-5x a week. I can honestly say that this is the LONGEST I've gone this year on a quitting smoking program w/out one cheat.
284/224/199/??? --- 1m 2d 21:22 smoke-free, 710 cigs not smoked, $124.25 saved, 2d 11:10 life saved
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> For me.. > It's much like being an alcoholic or an addict. How does an addict [quoted text clipped - 43 lines] > > > > Buddee. janice - 23 Nov 2003 09:36 GMT >Ok, I have lowbody fat, always have. I noticed around 4-5 years ago that I >actually had to start eating right because my youthfull metabolism was [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > >Buddee. I'm very sceptical about people who claim "glandular issues or other medical related obesity problems" but I know there are some who will tell me I'm wrong. The answer for me is simplistic (not to be confused with simple!) For myself, I've spent most of my adult life overweight because I eat too much. I eat too much because I have a compulsive eating problem which I have never been able to conquer for a sufficient length of time to get to my goal. I take a considerable amount of exercise, especially walking, swimming, etc., but it would take a heck of a lot of exercise to work off the calories some people eat, including me on a bad day. It could be that some of this applies to the people you are referring to, although I agree there are some who take no exercise and who really don't care about what they eat. Of course, exercise and eating well is the obvious thing to do. It's doing it that many people find difficult almost to the point of impossibility. janice
Perple Gyrl - 24 Nov 2003 14:27 GMT What are you doing now to help conquer the problem??? Are you more successful at it now then you were?? I've lost and gained weight over and over again. This is the thinnest I've gotten myself since I was in my late teens. I have food addictions and have suffered from compulsive overeating, so I was just curious... thanks.
284/224/199/???
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> For myself, I've spent most of my adult life overweight because I eat > too much. > I eat too much because I have a compulsive eating problem which I > have never been able to conquer for a sufficient length of time to get > to my goal. janice - 24 Nov 2003 16:44 GMT PG - the answer to this is that I have never yet succeeded in conquering the problem of compulsive overeating since it first "attacked" me around age 16. Prior to that I weighed somewhere around 130. Like you, I've lost and regained weight over and over. The highest I've ever been is 237, and I've lost and gone back up to around 233 many times over, and down as far as around 155. As I've got older I've managed to sustain much longer periods on a "sensible" WOE, but the overeating always reasserts itself at some point. I've tried all sorts of outside interventions over the years - group therapy, one to one therapy, etc. but nothing has ever made the behaviour go away completely. I live in hope! janice
>What are you doing now to help conquer the problem??? Are you more >successful at it now then you were?? I've lost and gained weight over and [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > >284/224/199/??? Perple Gyrl - 24 Nov 2003 15:10 GMT I live with hope too but doubt that hope is enough!
> I live in hope! > janice Crafting Mom - 23 Nov 2003 17:06 GMT There was a time when I didn't give a flying fig if I was fat, thin, or otherwise, as long as I got to eat WHAT I wanted, *when* I wanted. There *were* situations in my life which embedded this mindset when I was younger, of which I acted on later in my life. My choice, My deal.
Sometimes, seriously, food is tasty, and that taste is addictive for some, and they'll go through ANYthing, even fatness, to just taste it yet one more time.
Some people's addictions just happen to be more obvious than others, that is all. While one person is engaging in overeating, another person might be engaging in drugs, or gossiping behind someone's back, or what have you.
Someday I will reach the point of perfection, and never make any bad choices WRT eating, or whatever, and as soon as I do, you'll be the first to know ;-)
Jane Lumley - 24 Nov 2003 08:59 GMT >My question is...I see fat people everywhere, how does this >happen? I truly don't understand how somebody can let themsleves get to the >point of obesity. 1. Babies.
Being pregnant makes you very hungry in odd ways. You CAN control it, but you have to see the need.
No-one really said to me, 'look, you need to be willing to be really hungry for nine months and pretty depressed about it, or to gain 10+ pounds per baby.'
It also makes your body store fat. I suspect some of the metabolic changes are permanent.
Breastfeeding uses up FAR fewer calories than you are led to believe, and it causes RAGING carb cravings. I know someone who gained half a stone while bf twins.
2. Being at home with babies, and bored.
3. The ideology police. No-one ever said that being 'normal' weight was a lot of work. Heaven forfend. Any remarks of this kind led to cries of 'eating disorder'.
Hence paradoxical alliance between feminism and advertisers to create delusional state - also induced by advertising showing thin supermodel pogging self on Haagen-Dazs - that 'normal' people eat a lot and remain thin.
So why don't I deserve some too? Whine.
4. Conflicting ideologies - vague notion of keeping cookie jar full on the one hand and being a size 10 on the other. If cookie jar is full most people will sooner or later have a cookie.
5. Your metabolism slows as you age, however much you exercise.
I think everyone's answers may be different. But those are mine. I don't want to flame you, but I wouldn't be too sure of myself till I'd done babies and menopause.
 Signature Jane Lumley
Chris Braun - 25 Nov 2003 02:45 GMT >I wouldn't be too sure of myself till I'd >done babies and menopause. You've got that right, Jane!
Chris (who's done menopause and at this point isn't going to be doing babies :-) )
Cp - 24 Nov 2003 13:03 GMT I've seen lots of answers to this question.. but never the obvious one.
Sometimes people are just fat because that's all they've ever known.
I was always a very active kid. Always wanted to be outdoors.. yet I was also a chubby kid from the age of 4. Then I moved on to a heavy teen (180 was lowest at 16). I'm now a morbidly obese (god I hate those words) adult. The last 60 or so pounds came on without me even realizing. Literally I woke up one day and went... holy sh#t, I'm 240lbs. After that it was lifestyle that put on 20 more pounds.
What started it all though, was an unhealthy start. My mother cooked extremely greasy food, rewarded good behaviour with sweet treats, healed boo boo's with ice cream. My life revolved around food. It's only now (and by this I mean the past 5yrs or so) that I've finally begun to deal with the fact that if I don't change this relationship to food, I will die loving it. My doctor has already diagnosed me pre-diabetic with high cholesterol and elevated blood pressure. I'm only 29. It's a sobering fact and you know, sometimes it still isn't enough for me to break the bond I have with food.
I'm not overweight because I want to be. I'm overweight because I have not been able to break the cycle. I'm working on it though. I'm working hard and sometimes I succeed and sometimes I fail, but I keep trying.
I initially lost 40lbs and started to feel great but then all of a sudden I got comfortable, or maybe what I got was just scared. Scared because if I'm not "the fat one", then what am I? Scared of all the attention I could get if I got "thin". Losing weight sometimes is a huge leap. I've gained 20 of those pounds back and I'm working once again to take it off. My thoughts are that it's going to take awhile. I constantly have to have this battle within me and little by little my battles are being won.
Cp
> Ok, I have lowbody fat, always have. I noticed around 4-5 years ago that I > actually had to start eating right because my youthfull metabolism was [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > > Buddee. Perple Gyrl - 24 Nov 2003 14:36 GMT Geez, there are so many posts in this thread that I identify with, including yours. I've always been chubby growing up. It wasn't until my 16-17th year that I got really fat. My mom was a gourmet cook and a stay at home mom. She would always cook the most delicious meals. I am sick of being morbidly obese too. I was pre-diabetic and have PCOS, which is a metabolic disorder that makes it more difficult to lose weight, but not impossible to lose weight (www.soulcysters.com). I can't wait to be classified as overweight instead. Do you weigh 260 now? About 5 years ago, I went from 324 to 226 on the Atkins diet and maintained for 2 years. Over the past 3 years, I've gained to 284 due to personal issues. I am now at 224 and freaking out because this is the least I've weighed since I was in college.
284/224/199/???
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> I've seen lots of answers to this question.. but never the obvious one. > [quoted text clipped - 51 lines] > > > > Buddee. Cp - 24 Nov 2003 20:04 GMT > Geez, there are so many posts in this thread that I identify with, including > yours. I've always been chubby growing up. It wasn't until my 16-17th year [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > Email me at: > perpleglow(AT)comcast.net Yes I'm 260 now. 258 as of this morning actually :). I got down to about 235 in the fall of 2001 and that was the least I weighed in about 8 years. I briefly (and I mean for 2 months) weighed 222 after my daughter was born (almost 6 yrs ago) but that quickly came back. I went up to a high of 275 after that. That's when I lost the 40lbs.
If it's any consolation, I don't think you're considered mobidly obese anymore. To be in that club you need to be 100+lbs over your ideal weight. It's funny, I just noticed that our temporary goals are also the same. I always used to skip over that goal but then decided it was much more realistic of me to have it. I also set up a 1yr goal of 35lbs. It's one pound a week for 35 weeks, that will take me to my 30th birthday.
Ok, probably too much info, but I like to babble sometimes :)
Perple Gyrl - 24 Nov 2003 15:13 GMT Its ok... I babble too sometimes! Anyway, I think I will cry when I hit 199. It has been 1/2 of my life since the doctor's scale used a weight under 200 on me. My goal is to hit 199 by my 35th birthday in February. How tall are you? I am a bit over 5'9".
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> > Geez, there are so many posts in this thread that I identify with, > including [quoted text clipped - 33 lines] > > Ok, probably too much info, but I like to babble sometimes :) Cp - 25 Nov 2003 13:28 GMT > Its ok... I babble too sometimes! Anyway, I think I will cry when I hit > 199. It has been 1/2 of my life since the doctor's scale used a weight [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > Email me at: > perpleglow(AT)comcast.net I'm short.. 5'4 last I checked. My doctor actually told me once (when I was 242lbs) that if I lost those 40 lbs I'd be alright. I started out thinking I had to get to at least 140. Then it was ok... maybe 150. Now I've been in the 200's for so long (since 1993) I'll be happy to see anything that starts with a 1. I think if I ever, scratch that.. WHEN I see that number I'm going to scream so loud someone will call the police. Thankfully you get there slowly, cause if that number just suddenly appeared someone would have to pick me up off the floor with smelling salts. :)
Perple Gyrl - 24 Nov 2003 14:31 GMT Maybe if I hit the 100's, someone will actucally be able to lift me and not pull a muscle if I pass out.
Thankfully you
> get there slowly, cause if that number just suddenly appeared someone would > have to pick me up off the floor with smelling salts. :) Amanda - 25 Nov 2003 19:04 GMT > Maybe if I hit the 100's, someone will actucally be able to lift > me and not pull a muscle if I pass out. [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > would >> have to pick me up off the floor with smelling salts. :) I feel the same way. I'm currently at 225 (5'3") which is my highest weight. I'm 22 and just got marriend in June. I'm so paranoid about my weight that I refused to allow my husband to try and carry me over the threshhold. He wanted to, said it wouldn't be a problem, but I was so scared he would hurt himself. Eventually I will be down to about 150 (I'm flexible, it'll depend on how I feel when I get there. My long-term goal is 130) I'll let him carry me over whatever threshhold we happen to have at the time. After he does, though, he'll probably have to use those smelling salts on me, cuz I'll have fainted from joy.
Amanda
Perple Gyrl - 24 Nov 2003 15:33 GMT Well congrats on the marraige! We both got men that must love us for us... since I got married in July and weighed 280+ at the time!!
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> > Maybe if I hit the 100's, someone will actucally be able to lift > > me and not pull a muscle if I pass out. [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > > Amanda Amanda - 26 Nov 2003 05:24 GMT > Well congrats on the marraige! We both got men that must love us > for us... since I got married in July and weighed 280+ at the [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > Email me at: > perpleglow(AT)comcast.net congrats to you, too!!!!! That's the only thing that really keeps me going...knowing that he really doesn't care, as long as I'm healthy. Of course, that will require me to lose weight, but I'm not sick so he's fine with it. He's also fine with me dieting...or not....whatever makes me happy.
I can tell you, though. One of the reasons I fell in love with him is that he's the only man that ever made me feel beautiful. And we were friends for a year before we started dating so, he does like me for me. Feels great, doesn't it?
Here's to continued happiness and ongoing love.
Amanda
Perple Gyrl - 24 Nov 2003 15:55 GMT Aww that's great!!
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> > Well congrats on the marraige! We both got men that must love us > > for us... since I got married in July and weighed 280+ at the [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > > Amanda Crafting Mom - 26 Nov 2003 06:17 GMT >> Well congrats on the marraige! We both got men that must love us >> for us... since I got married in July and weighed 280+ at the [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] >he's fine with it. He's also fine with me dieting...or not....whatever >makes me happy. Just want to join the "me too" club! My husband is like that all the way. He loves ME, the person, and chose me not because of external criteria the world tries (unsuccessfully, mind you) to infiltrate our brains with, but because I just happen to be the person he envisioned merging lives with forever.
Wendy - 26 Nov 2003 17:28 GMT > Just want to join the "me too" club! My husband is like that all the > way. He loves ME, the person, and chose me not because of external > criteria the world tries (unsuccessfully, mind you) to infiltrate our > brains with, but because I just happen to be the person he envisioned > merging lives with forever. Hmmm. I've got a great marriage, but my husband prefers big boobs. He's practically gone into mourning over my rapid loss of frontal chest ornaments. He's started mentioning how I've lost enough [boobs] and he likes my shape the way it is [please no more boob loss!].
I don't think he's planning a divorce, but I think it would be naive of me to say that he doesn't care about how my body looks. He does. He likes that a waist has appeared on me. But he doesn't want me boney and he absolutely does NOT want me flat.
So, count me out of your group of "my husband loves my body no matter what it looks like." Mine has opinions. I tend to imagine that the men marrying 200+ women might prefer 200+ women, but I certainly could be wrong.
Wendy, married 15 years
Ignoramus30551 - 26 Nov 2003 18:40 GMT >> Just want to join the "me too" club! My husband is like that all the >> way. He loves ME, the person, and chose me not because of external [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > > Wendy, married 15 years A spouse who does not care how you look, does not sound like someone very interested in a close, intimate physical relationship. Maybe such a person looks for comfort, companionship, etc, but not for physical closeness and mutual admiration.
A spouse who does not concern him/herself with your health and the consequences of obesity, is not showing the proper level of care. If my wife grew a strange lesion, I would tell her about it and the need to check it. If she became morbidly obese, it would be similar. The key here is that we have to be reasonable... and not take everything to extremes.
I would freak out and do my utmost to effect positive changes if, say, my spouse gained 120 lbs. (it would be different if you substitute 50 lbs for 120).
I do not consider this shallow or unreasonable behavior.
Again, the key is to be reasonable, tactful, and act with understanding if possible.
i 223/176/180
Crafting Mom - 27 Nov 2003 01:04 GMT >A spouse who does not care how you look, does not sound like someone >very interested in a close, intimate physical relationship. Maybe such >a person looks for comfort, companionship, etc, but not for physical >closeness and mutual admiration. My husband cares about my *health* yes, but he is attracted to me because I am ME. He was supportive and loving the whole way when I was 250+ pounds and NEVER made me feel like anything but the special person HE picked of his own free choice to be his partner in life.
Without his support and true love, I'd likely never have had a reason to want to improve my health. Because he's loved me in various other states of health, he also gets the gift of me healthy, too. He was with me all the way as I weeded out the things that were bad for me, and supported me the whole way.
CM
Jennifer A - 26 Nov 2003 19:54 GMT > > Just want to join the "me too" club! My husband is like that all the > > way. He loves ME, the person, and chose me not because of external [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > > Wendy, married 15 years My husband doesn't necessarily care how I look, but is concerned about my health. He was concerned when I was obese and is now concerned that I am thin. He doesn't care for the bones sticking out of my back, but I have been able to build up some muscle on my shoulders and arms and torso which he's found attractive. He's concerned about the health problems that I've had lately and actually likes how I look when I'm a little bloated and puffy, especially the way I've gotten some of my boobs back due to hormones. He wants me to be happy and healthy first and foremost which is his main concern and that's really all I can ask for.
I was 300 pounds when we met and through most of our relationship. He never was really attracted to larger women before we met and has never expressed an interest in other large women, but he also doesn't like extremely thin women either and has let me know in his own subtle way that I looked better at size 12 than size 8 (we're compromising at a size 10 ;]). He also prefers when I wear my glasses instead of my contact lenses, but understands that the contacts are easier for me to be more active. He's more impressed with my accomplishments than my appearance. He loves *me* no matter what I look like, and is able to accept me and be physically attracted to me regardless of what my body looks like.
Jenn, celebrating the 9th anniversary of our first date on Friday 11/28.
Crafting Mom - 27 Nov 2003 01:07 GMT >that the contacts are easier for me to be more active. He's more impressed >with my accomplishments than my appearance. He loves *me* no matter what I >look like, and is able to accept me and be physically attracted to me >regardless of what my body looks like. Thank you for saying it beter than I could have. I tried to articulate what I meant, but did it badly. Now, This is not to say that if I have a good hair day and have worn his favorite scent, and a sexy thang on my body that it doesn't *enhance* the mood, but he still wants *me*.
Now that's LOVE cm
Cp - 26 Nov 2003 23:44 GMT > > Just want to join the "me too" club! My husband is like that all the > > way. He loves ME, the person, and chose me not because of external [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > > Wendy, married 15 years Well I conducted a test one time on three men I know. My husband, my best friend and my brother in law. All had previously said that they prefer a woman with "meat on her bones" and not thin. To me, a woman with meat on her bones is 200+. To them, it''s a different story. My husband said the weight he found sexiest was 190's, my best friend preffered 170's and my BIL said 140. My husband still finds me sexy at 260 but with much teeth pulling admitted that he would also like to see me some pounds lighter.
Crafting Mom - 27 Nov 2003 00:52 GMT >Hmmm. I've got a great marriage, but my husband prefers big boobs. He's >practically gone into mourning over my rapid loss of frontal chest >ornaments. He's started mentioning how I've lost enough [boobs] and he >likes my shape the way it is [please no more boob loss!]. My husband prefers anything that's attached to me :) I am not being naive to think that either. After a decade together (yes, I know you have been married longer), I think I'd know.
>So, count me out of your group of "my husband loves my body no matter >what it looks like." Mine has opinions. I tend to imagine that the men >marrying 200+ women might prefer 200+ women, but I certainly could be >wrong. My husband's ex was certainly not 200+ nor were his other girlfriends before her. Sometimes people do fall in love with people. Our love is relationship based, and he didn't pick me out of a catalogue :) It's called falling in love. Full stop. My husband shows me every day that he is 100% completely attracted to me. And I've been various weights, and I have a mild form of ichthyosis, a very ugly looking skin condition. Am I the only person on this earth whose husband doesn't have "a type"?
cm
Crafting Mom - 27 Nov 2003 00:57 GMT Oh, and yes, my husband has opinions too :). Preferring me no matter what I look like doesn't make him someone without opinions :) It's just that in his opinion, he's attracted more to the depth of our long standing relationship over what shape my body happens to be in at any given moment :)
In fact, some of our deepest and most intimate conversations are based on each other's opinions.
Best wishes to you, CM
Buddee - 25 Nov 2003 08:09 GMT Thanks for all the replies folks. This has really helped me to understand some of the reasons behind obesity. I've never been overweight, I'm currently 6'4, 200 lbs and 9% body fat, but I will no longer automatically think less of those who struggle. I have friends with substance abuse problems so I can relate to that.
Thanks,
Buddee.
> Ok, I have lowbody fat, always have. I noticed around 4-5 years ago that I > actually had to start eating right because my youthfull metabolism was [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > > Buddee. Perple Gyrl - 24 Nov 2003 14:32 GMT Wow, are you single? (lol joking)
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> Thanks for all the replies folks. This has really helped me to understand > some of the reasons behind obesity. I've never been overweight, I'm [quoted text clipped - 27 lines] > > > > Buddee. Cp - 25 Nov 2003 15:16 GMT hehe
> Wow, are you single? (lol joking) > [quoted text clipped - 37 lines] > > > > > > Buddee. Buddee - 26 Nov 2003 11:56 GMT Sadly, yes.
Buddee.
> Wow, are you single? (lol joking) > [quoted text clipped - 37 lines] > > > > > > Buddee. Perple Gyrl - 24 Nov 2003 15:55 GMT 6'4" and 9% body fat and single?
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> Sadly, yes. > [quoted text clipped - 49 lines] > > > > > > > > Buddee. That T Woman - 26 Nov 2003 16:32 GMT Perhaps he's proof that you can be tall, skinny and ugly all at the same time. <g> Just kidding. Maybe it's his personality. But even Hitler had a girlfriend. Still kidding. <g> Post a pic somewhere, Buddee, give us the link, and let us judge. Webshots will let you have a free space for it if you can't find anywhere else.
Tonia
> 6'4" and 9% body fat and single? > [quoted text clipped - 58 lines] > > > > > > > > > > Buddee. Buddee - 28 Nov 2003 12:02 GMT Actually I came to this NG for tips on finding certain tough to find foods, not because I have a weight problem. I'm actually single by choice. My last relationship was a nightmare! Not too ugly either I don't think... I model to supplement my income. But hey, looks aren't everything, they certainly don't mean automatic happiness. I'll post a pic if stupid Webshots will let me upload a picture. I click on an album and the "thinking" icon just spins and spins.... I'll try later.
Buddee.
> Perhaps he's proof that you can be tall, skinny and ugly all at the same > time. <g> Just kidding. Maybe it's his personality. But even Hitler had a [quoted text clipped - 72 lines] > > > > > > > > > > > > Buddee. JayJay - 28 Nov 2003 23:21 GMT There are plenty of people in here who also, are not in weightloss mode at the moment, nor do they have a weight problem, and some have never been obese, but have been fat.... and we are here to make shre we don't get fat again and continue to eat well and live well.
> Actually I came to this NG for tips on finding certain tough to find foods, > not because I have a weight problem. I'm actually single by choice. My last [quoted text clipped - 87 lines] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Buddee. MH - 27 Nov 2003 06:19 GMT Some of us LIKE being single, PG.
I'm not looking for anyone right now; I like the attention, but not the BS that comes afterwards. : )
Martha
> 6'4" and 9% body fat and single? > [quoted text clipped - 58 lines] > > > > > > > > > > Buddee. Perple Gyrl - 24 Nov 2003 17:35 GMT I know that, I was just trying to be funny!
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> Some of us LIKE being single, PG. > [quoted text clipped - 71 lines] > > > > > > > > > > > > Buddee.
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