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Susan Jones-Anderson - 23 Nov 2003 02:36 GMT
Lastnight I ran into a crowd of folks who I have not socialized with in
a very long time. As such my weight loss became a topic of convo. I was
pretty open and upfront about my prior weight and how I got here to
where I am now. But I found myself being overly praised by one guy who
kept on and on about how good I look. To the point where his wife got
snotty and left the room. I was really surprised at her bitchiness and
was wondering if anyone else has encountered this type of behavior from
women. I'm sure there are underlying issues with her and her husband
that don't have anything to do with his comments to me. But I really
didn't deserve her cattiness.

Susan
260/202/160

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Chris Braun - 23 Nov 2003 03:00 GMT
>Lastnight I ran into a crowd of folks who I have not socialized with in
>a very long time. As such my weight loss became a topic of convo. I was
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>Susan
>260/202/160

Was his wife overweight?  Maybe she took this as a criticism of her
weight, or as a suggestion that she should do what you've done?

Anyway, it sounds like the man's behavior was rather inappropriate, as
well as the woman's.  But you're right: there probably are underlying
issues.  I'd forget about it.  I doubt it had much to do with you.  Be
happy that he thinks you look nice, anyway.

Chris
Susan Jones-Anderson - 23 Nov 2003 03:39 GMT
Ya, I'm not gonna lose any sleep over it, But I tried to step back and
observe it in retrospect. I can't see myself being as rude as she was.
She's a little overweight but nothing extreme and his comments were very
flirtatious to me. Just is interesting to me because it's a new response
from women for me. Women are starting to see me as a threat whereas
before when I was at my highest I wasn't.

Susan
260/202/160

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$561.48 saved, 1wweek 3day 12:55hours of my life saved

> >Lastnight I ran into a crowd of folks who I have not socialized with in
> >a very long time. As such my weight loss became a topic of convo. I was
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>
> Chris
**Debby** - 23 Nov 2003 12:04 GMT
I would definitely feel complimented if that had happened to me.
> Ya, I'm not gonna lose any sleep over it, But I tried to step back and
> observe it in retrospect. I can't see myself being as rude as she was.
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> >
> > Chris
Melissa - 23 Nov 2003 14:07 GMT
I imagine she was mad at him, not at you.  He showed incredible stupidity
IMO. One nice comment would have been fine, but his going on about how
another woman looks was just hurtful to her, regardless of her weight.

Your loss of almost 60 pounds is probably a shocker for people who haven't
seen you lately. Maybe he was just stunned, and let his stupid mouth run
over. I wouldn't worry about the wife, she wasn't mad at you.

Melissa

> Lastnight I ran into a crowd of folks who I have not socialized with in
> a very long time. As such my weight loss became a topic of convo. I was
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> 2month 2weeks 15:36hours of being smoke-free, 3,032 cigs not smoked,
> $560.92 saved, 1wweek 3day 12:40hours of my life saved
Ignoramus22857 - 23 Nov 2003 14:26 GMT
My guess is that there is an ongoing pissing contest between that
husband and his wife, and you just became an unwitting part of it.

i

> Lastnight I ran into a crowd of folks who I have not socialized with in
> a very long time. As such my weight loss became a topic of convo. I was
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> 2month 2weeks 15:36hours of being smoke-free, 3,032 cigs not smoked,
> $560.92 saved, 1wweek 3day 12:40hours of my life saved
MH - 23 Nov 2003 16:22 GMT
> Lastnight I ran into a crowd of folks who I have not socialized with in
> a very long time. As such my weight loss became a topic of convo. I was
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> Susan
> 260/202/160

Yes, I've experienced it, to the point where married men where I work are
giving me their phone numbers. Yuck! They know I'm not a pushover, so they
don't bother me more than that.

Martha
Cp - 24 Nov 2003 00:28 GMT
> Lastnight I ran into a crowd of folks who I have not socialized with in
> a very long time. As such my weight loss became a topic of convo. I was
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> 2month 2weeks 15:36hours of being smoke-free, 3,032 cigs not smoked,
> $560.92 saved, 1wweek 3day 12:40hours of my life saved

Just a question that actually has nothing to do with the post.

You've lost almost 60 pounds (huge congrats btw) and I was wondering if
you've noticed anything in skin elasticity.  In other words.. are things
shrinking with you or are they starting to sag.

IIRC you're doing it the old fashioned way (food watching and exercise)
which is what I'm doing, plus your starting weight is the same as mine.

Always curious at what the end result will be.
Susan Jones-Anderson - 24 Nov 2003 01:24 GMT
It's not really a "sag" yet, its just less firm than it used to be on
the surface layers of my flesh(I don't know how else to describe it) But
under those layers I can feel my muscles firming. I suspect I am going
to have my biggest issue with my tummy. 3 kids later and that was always
my problem area anyway. Fortunately I am 5'9" and I am pretty well
proportioned/distributed in the way of fat.

And yes, I guess I am doing it the old fashion way. I eat less, what I
do eat is better and I get off my butt and MOVE. Not knocking anyone
else's method but I feel I will have more longevity than those who use
an aide or a "diet". I could be proven wrong. See.. I don't see this as
a "diet" I am on, It's a way of life for me now and I am taking it one
day at a time. I could stay at 200 lbs the rest of my life and be pretty
happy as long as the other conditions didn't come back, the indigestion,
a bad knee, sleep disorder, skin disorder, depression, the self esteem
issues. etc etc, the list goes on and on. So losing weight for me is
just a side effect of fixing what was causing those issues. Like a
bonus. I guess that is part of what has made this easier for me than
others.

When I made the decision to change my way of eating it was initially to
lose weight. Then I discovered that it changed SO many other aspects of
my life. Things I felt would be my burden for the rest of my life. So
the weight loss has just been a nice perk of regaining my health and
sanity :) - Here's the catch however. In order to keep those health
issues gone and the subsequent weight off. I have to take this on a day
to day basis and yes it gets hard sometimes. I'm human and those old
habits try to sneak back every so often. But I am fairly reasonable with
myself and realistic. I know how *bad* the indigestion is, or the skin
thing, or the sleeplessness. I *never* ever want those issues again.

Sorry this was lengthy.

Susan
260/202/160

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> > Lastnight I ran into a crowd of folks who I have not socialized with in
> > a very long time. As such my weight loss became a topic of convo. I was
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>
> Always curious at what the end result will be.
Perple Gyrl - 23 Nov 2003 22:16 GMT
I used to weigh 324 way back when, so I will definately need a tummy tuck to
get rid of the excess skin/fat.  I am thinking about trying one of those
body lifts I've heard about, where they lift the thighs, back and tummy in
one operation.  I am a tad taller then 5'9", which does help me look thinner
then I weigh and I have a long torso, average legs.  (60 lbs gone here).
What size are you fitting into now???

284/224/199/???

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> It's not really a "sag" yet, its just less firm than it used to be on
> the surface layers of my flesh(I don't know how else to describe it) But
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> >
> > Always curious at what the end result will be.
Cp - 24 Nov 2003 12:23 GMT
> It's not really a "sag" yet, its just less firm than it used to be on
> the surface layers of my flesh(I don't know how else to describe it) But
> under those layers I can feel my muscles firming. I suspect I am going
> to have my biggest issue with my tummy. 3 kids later and that was always
> my problem area anyway. Fortunately I am 5'9" and I am pretty well
> proportioned/distributed in the way of fat.

That's what I notice too.  The fat is just kinda softer and squishier.  I'm
hoping that the skin will shrink along since I'm doing it the old fashioned
way and losing slowly (veeeeeeeeeeerrrrrry slowly *G*)

> And yes, I guess I am doing it the old fashion way. I eat less, what I
> do eat is better and I get off my butt and MOVE. Not knocking anyone
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>
> Sorry this was lengthy.

no apologies necessary :)  It's nice to hear people's stories.

> Susan
> 260/202/160
>
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> 2month 2weeks 1days 14:21hours of being smoke-free, 3,069 cigs not
> smoked, $567.77 saved, 1wweek 3day 15:45hours of my life saved
janice - 24 Nov 2003 16:38 GMT
>That's what I notice too.  The fat is just kinda softer and squishier.  I'm
>hoping that the skin will shrink along since I'm doing it the old fashioned
>way and losing slowly (veeeeeeeeeeerrrrrry slowly *G*)

My remaining fat is definitely softer.  I think this may be because
the skin is so much looser it's no longer keeping it in place so
firmly.  Hope it will resolve itself eventually.
janice
Chris Braun - 25 Nov 2003 02:25 GMT
>>That's what I notice too.  The fat is just kinda softer and squishier.  I'm
>>hoping that the skin will shrink along since I'm doing it the old fashioned
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>firmly.  Hope it will resolve itself eventually.
>janice

I've noticed the same thing.  I don't know just how it will all end
up.  At my age (55), the skin definitely doesn't bounce back the way
it used to.  We'll have to see what happens.  

Chris
Wendy - 24 Nov 2003 14:03 GMT
> You've lost almost 60 pounds (huge congrats btw) and I was wondering if
> you've noticed anything in skin elasticity.  In other words.. are things
> shrinking with you or are they starting to sag.

I've lost 56 pounds.  Can I answer, too?  :-)

My skin is an enormous bother to me right now.  I have stretch marks
everywhere - I look stripes when I get a tan since the stretch marks don't
take color the same.  There are stretch marks under my arms, on my
breasts, on my knees, all over my thighs and hips and humongous ones
covering my belly.  My olivey skin is apparently abnormally thick and
healthy, as well.  I don't have to use moisturizer (I'm nearly 40) and I
heal quickly.  But it never, ever shrinks: all the tummy stretches from
each of my three kids is still sitting there.  (The first kid was a
c-section, could that be a factor?)

So what I've got is prodigious amounts of vibrant skin.  It's hanging like
an apron from my belly.  It's sitting puckered on the inside of my
thighs.  God has granted me the mercy of not being able to see my a.s, but
there appears to be an empty pocket of skin sagging there as well.  The
"cellulite" on the back of my thighs is spottable from 100 paces.

I went for a caliper test last week.  I'd never had one before and I
question it's effectiveness at measuring fat by measuring my skin.  The
trainer doing the test crowed enthusiastically about how easy it was to
seperate my skin/fat from the underlying muscle.  She really didn't seem
to understand that she was mostly measuring my excess skin, not my
subcutanous fat.  My BF% came in at 30% with the calipers.  I suspect it's
more like 28% really.

Does anyone have anything that helps the skin?  I eat lots of fish, drink
lots of water and I've avoided the sun lately (though not
historically.)  I've taken to rubbing alpha-hydroxy lotion into my belly
and thighs.  No noticeable progress there.  

I'm won't consider surgery unless I can come up with some tangible
benefits to losing the skin to offset the costs and risks.  Anyone know
any benefit to losing the skin besides not being annoyed by it anymore?

Wendy
Perple Gyrl - 24 Nov 2003 15:06 GMT
Amen sista.... I have the same problem on my tummy, thighs, arms and boobs.
I have very pale healthy skin, as I avoid the sun at great length.  I don't
think anything will help except surgery in my case.  Going from 324 to 226
to 284 to 224 then lower is what is killing me thus far...

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> > You've lost almost 60 pounds (huge congrats btw) and I was wondering if
> > you've noticed anything in skin elasticity.  In other words.. are things
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>
> Wendy
Jennifer A - 24 Nov 2003 15:17 GMT
> Does anyone have anything that helps the skin?  I eat lots of fish, drink
> lots of water and I've avoided the sun lately (though not
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>
> Wendy

I'm finding that time and exercise are helping.  My arms are less flappy
than they were a few months ago though they haven't increased in size.  Even
my thighs are starting to look better (and getting they don't rub together
when I walk anymore).  Skin from what used to be my butt still hangs down,
but the glutes are also becoming more defined and pulling it up a smidgen -
though not enough to parade around in a bathing suit bottom (I have the kind
with shorts for a bottom). The more subcutaneous fat I've lost, the better
the skin looks.  My stomach is still has the apron thing and I don't expect
that will ever go away without surgery, but it hangs less and I'm getting
more definition in the obliques.  It also bothers me less over time, though
I expect I will still have it removed eventually.

Jenn
Cp - 24 Nov 2003 19:46 GMT
> > You've lost almost 60 pounds (huge congrats btw) and I was wondering if
> > you've noticed anything in skin elasticity.  In other words.. are things
> > shrinking with you or are they starting to sag.
>
> I've lost 56 pounds.  Can I answer, too?  :-)

but of course :)

> My skin is an enormous bother to me right now.  I have stretch marks
> everywhere - I look stripes when I get a tan since the stretch marks don't
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>
> Wendy

I heard that getting rid of it will stop any infections that might grow
underneath the skin (but that was in extreme cases where people have lost
over 200lbs).
Chris Braun - 25 Nov 2003 03:37 GMT
>My skin is an enormous bother to me right now.  

I'm not thrilled with mine either.  Some different stuff than you,
some the same.  So here's a bunch of discussion :-):

>I have stretch marks
>everywhere - I look stripes when I get a tan since the stretch marks don't
>take color the same.  There are stretch marks under my arms, on my
>breasts, on my knees, all over my thighs and hips and humongous ones
>covering my belly.  

I mainly have them on my hips, breasts (actually got the hip and
breast ones when I was a teenager because my figure developed very
fast, so they're pretty faded) and sides of my belly (from getting fat
in later life).  My skin is quite pale and I don't really tan --
especially in these areas -- so I think they don't show as much.

What's more noticeable for me, particularly in the belly area, but
elsewhere as well, is just sort of wrinkly skin -- kind of like on an
elephant (though of course not anywhere near as pronounced or thick --
just tiny wrinkles but lots of them).

>My olivey skin is apparently abnormally thick and
>healthy, as well.  I don't have to use moisturizer (I'm nearly 40) and I
>heal quickly.  But it never, ever shrinks: all the tummy stretches from
>each of my three kids is still sitting there.  (The first kid was a
>c-section, could that be a factor?)

I haven't had children, and have thin, dry skin.  So I probably don't
have as much damage as you from stretching, but my skin probably
doesn't recover as well.

>So what I've got is prodigious amounts of vibrant skin.  It's hanging like
>an apron from my belly.  It's sitting puckered on the inside of my
>thighs.  God has granted me the mercy of not being able to see my a.s, but
>there appears to be an empty pocket of skin sagging there as well.  The
>"cellulite" on the back of my thighs is spottable from 100 paces.

I'm fortunate that I don't seem to be going to have an apron.  I'm not
sure why, but that isn't happening at all, so I don't suppose it will
now.  I never really carried disproportionate amounts of fat in my
belly, though.  And didn't go throught the childbirth thing, if that's
a factor.  (Or perhaps the c-section was.)  I'm actually quite lean in
the lower belly area.  There is some excess flesh higher up on my
abdomen, but not enough to hang down far.  And my thighs aren't too
bad.  But the back of my butt has a little droopy area.  Underpants
help :-).

When my stomach (actually the whole front of my body) looks really bad
to me is when I'm naked and bending over at the waist and look down at
myself.  Then gravity really does its worst with everything that's
loose, and all the wrinkles are much more obvious.  (But it isn't a
view available to many :-).)

>I went for a caliper test last week.  I'd never had one before and I
>question it's effectiveness at measuring fat by measuring my skin.  The
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>subcutanous fat.  My BF% came in at 30% with the calipers.  I suspect it's
>more like 28% really.

I haven't had this done since about 40 lbs. ago, but I expect it
wouldn't work well for me either.  I'll have to ask Tom what he thinks
about it.

>Does anyone have anything that helps the skin?  I eat lots of fish, drink
>lots of water and I've avoided the sun lately (though not
>historically.)  I've taken to rubbing alpha-hydroxy lotion into my belly
>and thighs.  No noticeable progress there.  

Elise recommended something to me that I've been using -- though not
regularly enough, I'm afraid: L'Oreal's Nutrifit.  I think it helps
with dryness (not your problem, it sounds like), which helps minimize
some of the visible wrinkling for me.

>I'm won't consider surgery unless I can come up with some tangible
>benefits to losing the skin to offset the costs and risks.  Anyone know
>any benefit to losing the skin besides not being annoyed by it anymore?

No thoughts on this.  I doubt I'd consider it.

Chris
262/172/???
Cp - 25 Nov 2003 13:19 GMT
I think how long the skin has been stretched is a big factor on whether or
not the skin will bounce back.  But then again... it ain't my experience :)

> >My skin is an enormous bother to me right now.
>
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> Chris
> 262/172/???
Wendy - 25 Nov 2003 13:46 GMT
> I'm fortunate that I don't seem to be going to have an apron.  I'm not
> sure why, but that isn't happening at all, so I don't suppose it will
> now.

No, it's quite definitely a childbirth thing.  Put a basketball under your
skin, stretch it out, then remove the basketball.  (I'll be kind and
assume you do it surgically.)  Now hang a sign on the skin that says,
"this place for rent" as it hangs empty from your belly.

I don't know why this happened to me.  Maybe having the first kid be a
c-section and getting pregnant right away with another kid my skin just
didn't heal.  Then I gained weight and had a third (largest) kid.

Come to think of it, this has happened to me over and over again: I loan
my children something and they give it back to me damaged.

Wendy
Cp - 25 Nov 2003 15:15 GMT
> > I'm fortunate that I don't seem to be going to have an apron.  I'm not
> > sure why, but that isn't happening at all, so I don't suppose it will
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>
> Wendy

LOL!  I only had one kid, but she was 9.7 and a C-section and I find that my
stomach (because the outter cut was vertical as opposed to the inside
horizontal cut) decided to kind of fold in on itself in the middle.  So I
kind of have a stomach that will look like my butt at times (hehe.. ok, that
gave even me a funny visual).  Unfortunately, that's a side effect I don't
think I'll ever be able to get rid of.
 
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