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That T Woman - 25 Nov 2003 23:15 GMT
It was just about this time last year when I fell off the "wagon" and began
my slide back to regain the weight I'd lost.  I just realized that a big
factor in that was the colder weather.  The cold is making me extremely
hungry.  I'm still logging what I eat and even after I've reached my daily
allocation of calories at which point I wasn't hungry when it was warm, I'm
still hungry.  So far I've been able to tough it out but it's so very hard.
Hopefully I'll be able to overcome this by drinking a lot of non calorie hot
tea and wrapping up in a blanket so I won't be so cold (and it's not that
cold here in Lubbock.)  Since my WOE is heavy on the green veggie salads, a
change has to come right there.  I want only hot food.

Is anyone else suffering like this?

Tonia
Mieko - 26 Nov 2003 00:01 GMT
>It was just about this time last year when I fell off the "wagon" and began
>my slide back to regain the weight I'd lost.  I just realized that a big
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>Is anyone else suffering like this?

Yup, it's not that cold here either, (southern california), but with it
getting dark earlier, and needing a jacket, salads just don't appeal as much
as a nice bowl of soup.
Maybe you can switch to some high veggie soups? I make an adapted chicken
tortilla soup (without any tortilla chips, cheese, and sometimes skip the
avocado) that ends up pretty low calorie.
I wouldn't be too surprised if you find out you do need a few more calories in
the winter, but I think the hard part is finding how many more you can handle.

Good Luck.
That T Woman - 26 Nov 2003 15:22 GMT
> >It was just about this time last year when I fell off the "wagon" and began
> >my slide back to regain the weight I'd lost.  I just realized that a big
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> Good Luck.

I'm going to try some soups next week.  We'll see what happens.

Thanks,
Tonia
Ignoramus16936 - 26 Nov 2003 00:05 GMT
> It was just about this time last year when I fell off the "wagon" and began
> my slide back to regain the weight I'd lost.  I just realized that a big
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> Is anyone else suffering like this?

Were you on a low fat diet? I read that cold weather makes you want
more fat. If you were eating carbs instead, you were not satisfying
the fat craving.

I am not yet suffering like that, but we'll see.

i
That T Woman - 26 Nov 2003 15:31 GMT
> > It was just about this time last year when I fell off the "wagon" and began
> > my slide back to regain the weight I'd lost.  I just realized that a big
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> i

Not particularly low fat but I try to moderate everything.  I like a
balance.  This time around I'm particularly watching my carbs and trying to
keep consumption of them to around 35% of my calories.  I don't track the
fat grams and I do eat meat but not excessively.

My DH said he saw a newsreport that was about winter eating and it said it's
normal to be hungrier and that's why along with the 4 big holidays,
Halloween, Thanksgiving, Christmas and New Years, that people party on, that
most people gain weight during the winter.

Tonia
Ignoramus30551 - 26 Nov 2003 15:48 GMT
>> > It was just about this time last year when I fell off the "wagon" and
> began
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> keep consumption of them to around 35% of my calories.  I don't track the
> fat grams and I do eat meat but not excessively.

Only 35% of calories from carbs?

That strikes me as pretty low.

I am not questioning your diet choice, but I would not describe it as
"moderate everything".

> My DH said he saw a newsreport that was about winter eating and it said it's
> normal to be hungrier and that's why along with the 4 big holidays,
> Halloween, Thanksgiving, Christmas and New Years, that people party on, that
> most people gain weight during the winter.

Sure... plus, it is dark and more depressing.

i
Wendy - 26 Nov 2003 20:40 GMT
> Only 35% of calories from carbs?

> That strikes me as pretty low.

> I am not questioning your diet choice, but I would not describe it as
> "moderate everything".

Wouldn't that be more than 1/3 of their calories, with the rest coming
from protein, fats and alcohol?  My understanding is that the average
American diet is 40% fat.  Say 5% of calories come from alcohol... coming
up with 35% calories from carbs and 20% from protein seems fairly
reasonable (and believable) to me.

Wendy
Patricia Heil - 26 Nov 2003 00:52 GMT
What are you doing for exercise?  One of my problems is a bad
circulatory system, but the exercise I do counteracts it in
many ways -- no more cold feet, fewer migraines.  If you
exercise, you can eat more without regaining weight because
you work off calories.  Some of us have also found that
aerobic exercise depresses the appetite for up to an hour.

You should substitute hot veggie dishes for the salads.
There are plenty of them: Chinese stir fry; India style recipes;
colcannon (an Irish recipe, mashed potatoes with steamed
kale and green onions). Soup is another hot food that is easily
filled with veggies.  You can even make completely veggie
soup with fennel bulb as a base, but I wouldn't put cabbage
in it because that's overkill.  And I stick veggies in other
stuff, like I stick baby peas in mac&cheese.
The variety of veggies you get is probably also restricted because
you're eating so many salads.  This constricts your nutritional
variety and that can contribute to cravings.

> It was just about this time last year when I fell off the "wagon" and began
> my slide back to regain the weight I'd lost.  I just realized that a big
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> Tonia
That T Woman - 26 Nov 2003 15:15 GMT
I've been working out Tuesdays, Thursdays and Saturdays at the gym where I
walk on the treadmill for 30 minutes, then I do 20-30 minutes on the
recumbent bike and then 20-30 minutes on the elliptical trainer.  On the
other days, I use my ski machine and I'm up to 20 minutes on that b*tch.  I
know I should get back to the dumb bells but I just don't seem to be able
to.

The salads I make are complicated things with lots of different veggies,
romaine or green leaf lettuce, spinach, broccoli sprouts or mustard and
alfalfa sprouts, tomato, green bell pepper, carrots, celery, mushrooms, red
onion, broccoli flowers, califlower and sometimes baby corn ears, palm
hearts and artichoke hearts, .  It depends on what I have on hand and how
motivated I'm to go to the big grocery store that has the fantastic salad
bar.  My problem with cooked veggies is that they don't seem to stay warm
long enough and I hate eating cold broccoli or green beans and I have to
feed my DH also and he won't eat anything "exotic".

I'm managing.  I got on the scale this morning and I'm down two pounds.  It
was six days since previous one pound loss and it took nine days to drop
that pound.  Overall, I've lost 16 pounds in 73 days or 10-1/2 weeks.

> What are you doing for exercise?  One of my problems is a bad
> circulatory system, but the exercise I do counteracts it in
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> > Tonia
Cat - 26 Nov 2003 02:02 GMT
Yes, I'm having the same problem. I'm very hungry. But I'm keeping it under
control. I have to say, though, it is a daily struggle and it absolutely
started with the cold weather.

Cat

> It was just about this time last year when I fell off the "wagon" and began
> my slide back to regain the weight I'd lost.  I just realized that a big
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> Tonia
Wendy - 26 Nov 2003 02:29 GMT
>  Since my WOE is heavy on the green veggie salads, a
> change has to come right there.  I want only hot food.

> Is anyone else suffering like this?

Yes.  I want hot foods, too.  I've changed my salads quite a bit lately -
I add steamed vegetables and warmed up meat on top now.  I also sometimes
just skip the greens and go straight for steamed veggies with some brown
rice or bulgar and some meat all warmed up in the microwave.  (I steam
huge pots of veggies and eat the leftovers for days.)

I've also been eating soup.  I make turkey carcass soup: boil turkey bits
with some onion, carrot, celery, sage, salt, pepper and what have you for
a few hours.  Let cool, remove all solids.  Reheat the broth and add soup
ingredients: chopped up turkey, frozen vegetables, rice/noodles/bulgar,
etc.  It's not that many calories but is filling.  I often have two bowls
of this for lunch!

Wendy
Teri - 26 Nov 2003 12:39 GMT
> It was just about this time last year when I fell off the "wagon" and began
> my slide back to regain the weight I'd lost.  I just realized that a big
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> Tonia

As I gain weight - it occurred to me that oct-nov-dec are definitely my
weight-gaining months.  It's hard for me to lose weight under the best of
circumstances, between the change in weather, the ability to 'hide' in bulky
sweaters and the socializing that comes in addition to the holidays - I'm
just a food vacuum.  Working as hard as I can to be aware of that - and also
trying to consume more no-cal liquids - and making time for exercise will
hopefully keep me in check. Good luck to you.
Teri
Gloria - 26 Nov 2003 13:06 GMT
Tonia,
I KNOW what you mean as I'm having a problem just to maintane ! I want
to eat ANYTHING & it's after dinner and I'm through eating for the day
that I get the munchees! I  feel I just want ONE MORE thing to eat. Hang
in there and we can do this.

WARMLY:)
glo
Mary M - Ohio - 26 Nov 2003 16:00 GMT
I agree that salads lose their appeal when I'm freezing. :-)  To combat the urge to
"fatten up for winter" (and it's quite a strong urge) I find that a variety of really
yummy and great-smelling herbal or flavored black teas really help -- i.e. apple
cinnamon, orange spice, "christmas" blends -- something that smells appealing and
comforting. Another plus is that drinking it warms me up and helps get my water in
for the day (since I'm not so enthusiastic about drinking cold water while I'm
freezing. Hmmmm, I think I'll make a cup of Constant Comment right now.

Also, hot steamed vegetables (cubes of zucchini for example) covered with your
favorite (low sugar low salt) spaghetti sauce. Baked cauliflower (rub or spray
outside with olive oil, season, and bake for about an hour -- (cook it uncovered for
the last half hour and the outside gets all crispy and yummy). Just a few suggestions
of what helps me!

Mary
325-150-145

> It was just about this time last year when I fell off the "wagon" and began
> my slide back to regain the weight I'd lost.  I just realized that a big
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> Tonia
Jennifer A - 26 Nov 2003 19:59 GMT
> I agree that salads lose their appeal when I'm freezing. :-)  To combat the urge to
> "fatten up for winter" (and it's quite a strong urge) I find that a variety of really
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> Mary
> 325-150-145

I found that the cold weather was definitely affecting my water intake until
I switched to herbal teas.  I also have a recipe for curried cauliflower and
some other very flavorful vegetable recipes that I'll be trying in lieu of
the salads and raw veggies that sustained me in warmer weather.  Till I can
manage a low salt soup that has some actual flavor, (I suck at making soup)
I'll try making these cooked veggie dishes for winter warmth and comfort. :)

Jenn
rosie read and post - 26 Nov 2003 17:00 GMT
along with the season change, from fall to winter, comes the shorter
days, and seasonal affective disorder.
get more sleep, and be sure to get as much sunshine as you
can......................

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read and post daily, it works!
rosie

to avoid criticism, do nothing, say nothing, and be nothing.
.......................elbert hubbard

> It was just about this time last year when I fell off the "wagon" and began
> my slide back to regain the weight I'd lost.  I just realized that a big
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> Tonia
Sue - 26 Nov 2003 18:05 GMT
> It was just about this time last year when I fell off the "wagon" and began
> my slide back to regain the weight I'd lost.  I just realized that a big
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> Tonia

The problem is that due to the growing lack of sufficient light and cold
weather, we (or at least a lot of us) are designed to crave carbs and bulk
up during the wintertime. Think bears and hibernation. I just eat more
protein and fat and less carbs. I understand if you may not prefer this
suggestion.
 
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