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Weight Loss Forum / General Topics / February 2006Morbidly Obese Woman Desperate For Help- Called 911 Twenty Times
Morbidly Obese Woman Desperate For Help Called 911 Twenty Times By Laura Anthony http://abclocal.go.com/kgo/story?section=local&id=3832375 Jan. 20 - KGO - A Bay Area woman who is morbidly obese is so desperate for help, that she pleaded with us to reveal her very difficult situation. For Wendy Milnes, this is a pretty typical day -- a day when it took six firefighters to move her three feet from the floor to the bed in her Walnut Creek apartment. Until the fire department arrived, this is how the 29-year-old Milnes spent her morning, after the 500-pound woman slipped off a chair, onto the floor. ABC7's Laura Anthony: "At this point, describe what your life is like?" Wendy Milnes, obese woman: "Pure misery. I can barely stand up on my own." Milnes has had a weight problem since childhood, steadily growing from a skinny pre-schooler, to plump pre-teen, and into an overweight young woman. But it wasn't until the past few years when things got out of control. Wendy Milnes: "A LOT OF IT HAD TO DO WITH GENETICS. I was in an automobile accident in 2001. I spent 18 months on morphine and gained 120 pounds." Since Milnes' most recent release from the hospital, roommate Charles Morris quit working to be her primary caregiver since they can't find anywhere else for a woman her size, with kidney and heart ailments, to go. Charles Morris, Milnes' friend: "A social worker told me she's been turned down from every facility in Contra Costa and Alameda County because of her size." IN JUST ONE MONTH, MORRIS CALLED 911 TWENTY TIMES ASKING FOR HELP TO MOVE MILNES. BATT. CHIEF ALAN HARTFORD, CONTRA COSTA FIRE DEPT.: "THE ISSUE BECOMES HOW DO WE BALANCE HER NEEDS WITH THE NEEDS OF THE REST OF THE CITIZENS? FOR INSTANCE, TODAY WE HAD TWO-ALARM FIRES, AND WHILE THIS SITUATION WAS GOING ON OVER THERE TODAY, WE HAD ONE GOING ON IN CONCORD." So for now, Wendy Milnes is basically a prisoner in her own apartment, feeling abandoned by mostly everyone, except her loyal roommate Charles. Laura Anthony: "Are you worried about what's going to happen to you?" Wendy Milnes: "Frankly, yes. I'm very worried about what's going to happen because I just don't know." To find out how you can help, you can send an email to Wendy at sedonairene@aol.com or morriscarmody@aol.com. whats the point to post this?? Everyone on this site is losing weight , are you saying you are so fat we should accept you blubber slab. Well I hope all these post are inspiring you to lose weight, because you name really says it all. I heard your weight was at 480 lbs?? Hope you take your advise > whats the point to post this?? Everyone on this site is losing weight > , are you saying you are so fat we should accept you blubber slab. > Well I hope all these post are inspiring you to lose weight, because > you name really says it all. I heard your weight was at 480 lbs?? > Hope you take your advise Listen up turd-blaster I don't make the news - I just report it! The fire department actually had to ignore a real FIRE in their town because they were too busy trying to get the morbidly obese woman off the ground after she fell off her chair!! How would you have felt if it was your house that had been the one that burned down? Think about it ya stupid bastard! THWACK - you have been blubberslapped!!! > Morbidly Obese Woman Desperate For Help Called 911 Twenty Times > > By Laura Anthony > http://abclocal.go.com/kgo/story?section=local&id=3832375 I just watched the video clip. Pathetic. > Jan. 20 - KGO - A Bay Area woman who is morbidly obese is so desperate > for help, that she pleaded with us to reveal her very difficult [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > spent her morning, after the 500-pound woman slipped off a chair, onto > the floor. She should install a crane in her apartment. > ABC7's Laura Anthony: "At this point, describe what your life is > like?" [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > automobile accident in 2001. I spent 18 months on morphine and gained > 120 pounds." How many calories are in morphine anyway? > Since Milnes' most recent release from the hospital, roommate Charles > Morris quit working to be her primary caregiver since they can't find > anywhere else for a woman her size, with kidney and heart ailments, to > go. Her fat loser roommate is collecting money from the state to take care of this 500 pound lump of flesh. > Charles Morris, Milnes' friend: "A social worker told me she's been > turned down from every facility in Contra Costa and Alameda County > because of her size." > > IN JUST ONE MONTH, MORRIS CALLED 911 TWENTY TIMES ASKING FOR HELP TO > MOVE MILNES. That's an excellent use of emergency services and our tax dollars. > BATT. CHIEF ALAN HARTFORD, CONTRA COSTA FIRE DEPT.: "THE ISSUE BECOMES > HOW DO WE BALANCE HER NEEDS WITH THE NEEDS OF THE REST OF THE [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > feeling abandoned by mostly everyone, except her loyal roommate > Charles. I wonder if Charles wipes Wendy's a.s for her. > Laura Anthony: "Are you worried about what's going to happen to you?" > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > To find out how you can help, you can send an email to Wendy at > sedonairene@aol.com or morriscarmody@aol.com. I wonder if NAAFA will be taking up Wendy's cause. f.ck each and every one of you -especially you 'hunter'! She is a beautiful soul who has obviously put her heart on the line to appeal for help. You should all be ashamed of yourselves. > > Morbidly Obese Woman Desperate For Help Called 911 Twenty Times > > [quoted text clipped - 73 lines] > > I wonder if NAAFA will be taking up Wendy's cause. > f.ck each and every one of you -especially you 'hunter'! She is a > beautiful soul who has obviously put her heart on the line to appeal > for help. You should all be ashamed of yourselves. Wendy Milnes is a BBW and deserves the support of the global fat acceptance community. > > > Morbidly Obese Woman Desperate For Help Called 911 Twenty Times > > > [quoted text clipped - 75 lines] > > > > I wonder if NAAFA will be taking up Wendy's cause. >f.ck each and every one of you -especially you 'hunter'! She is a >beautiful soul who has obviously put her heart on the line to appeal >for help. You should all be ashamed of yourselves. Thank you for your support , Lady Veteran. I have been receiving a lot of abusive emails about being a pig, but I am really a light eater. My obesity is genetic. I only eat one small day a day. I put on 120 pounds because I was on morphine. Can you please help me? Hi Wendy. Not all obesity is genetic, although it is NICE to blame it on genetics. My Father's side of the family has obese women, my Mother's side only a few are obese. The men on my Father's side are heavy, same with my Mother's side. However, my son is not, he is lean and muscular. I used to be in shape, but after several years of working with lupus I had to quit and get on prednisone ... I blew up like a big puffy balloon. Then there was the fibromyalgia, the thyroid problem, arthritis in the knees ... I stopped living. Then one day while recovering from surgery I flipped through the tv channels and watched some guy named Dr. Don Colbert talk about how we eat wrong. He was right, I got that book and I fought the battle for three years and have lost 168 pounds. I'm still considered morbidly obese and sometimes do not even like looking in the mirror ... but I do, often so that I can remember not to add anymore rolls. I combine Weight Watchers, The LEARN Program and Dr. Colbert's advice in order to slowly reduce my weight. If I was married ... we'd be doing a lot of sexercise and I would no longer be obese, but I am single and force myself to go swimming at the gym. It's about all my body can handle these days. You need to find a true support group for obese people, not just to accept it, but to fight it as well. By eating only one small meal you are screwing up your metobolic system - I am certain your physician will tell you the same thing. You need to eat, and you need to eat often - six small meals a day, or three regular meals plus three snacks. Drink a lot of water, and do some Sit and Be Fit exercises. It is not healthy for you to be as heavy as you are, and it is not healthy for me either. The people here are for the most part very cruel, you deserve to be in a group that shows you and your live in care giver support. It cannot be easy for him to care for you. I have two workers that come and help me - but I am mobile. I cannot imagine what you are going through. When you ask "can you help me" what exactly is it that you want help with? Lynnette If I was married ... we'd be doing a lot of | sexercise and I would no longer be obese, but I am single and force | myself to go swimming at the gym. It's about all my body can handle | these days. There's someone on ssf-a with a similar problem with lupus and its treatment, who gets jeered at all the time. | You need to find a true support group for obese people, not just to | accept it, but to fight it as well. There are groups for both, I suppose. Although the fat acceptance group (such as it is) advocates more of a concen- tration on healthful habits (which we can help) and less on weight ( which many of us have no control over). By eating only one small meal you | are screwing up your metobolic system - I am certain your physician | will tell you the same thing. Lynette, you are giving a serious answer to a dopey sock puppet. Check the full headers if you need to be convinced. | When you ask "can you help me" what exactly is it that you want help | with? Probably getting a life. (See my previous comment.) | Lynnette Ssf-a does not have a moderator, but there is an associated moderated group which does. My apologies for this somewhat off-topic post to the diet and consumer newsgroups, but I wanted to answer Lynette and inform others who might take the troll seriously. Robin > If I was married ... we'd be doing a lot of >| sexercise and I would no longer be obese, but I am single and force [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > There's someone on ssf-a with a similar problem with >lupus and its treatment, who gets jeered at all the time. There is a party who posts here that claims her obesity is linked to Lupus. However, she is extremely rude to nearly all the other posters here so she receives little sympathy because of her bad attitude. Jan Robin and Jan, Thank you both for the responses. I can understand how someone with Lupus can at times appear to be rude There are days that I come across that way, but the reality is tha most of the time my writings are in a kind tone. Some people wit Lupus do have obesity problems, and yet others have problems wit anorexia. Thanks again to both of you. All I have done is posted responses t what I thought was clearly a "weightloss banter . net" site. Best to both of you, Lynnette Jan Wrote: > "NetterBug" LynnetteMFrary@aol.com wrote in message > news:1138159475.308947.280630@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com... [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > Ja -- NetterBug >> Wendy Milnes: "A LOT OF IT HAD TO DO WITH GENETICS. I was in an >> automobile accident in 2001. I spent 18 months on morphine and gained >> 120 pounds." > >How many calories are in morphine anyway? Ha ha ha. Reminds me of the time this obese woman whose a.s looked like twin beach balls was standing on the corner watching the young thugs loot 'n' shoot and burn down her city. The photogenic airhead news reporter approached her and asked her opinion as to the reason for this bongo party. So help me God, this 400 lb. behemoth looked the reporter straight in the eye and said, without cracking a smile "'Cause we is hongree!" BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA! i still think captain blubber is very obese, why would he be so interested in fat people if he was not fat himself??? >>> Wendy Milnes: "A LOT OF IT HAD TO DO WITH GENETICS. I was in an >>> automobile accident in 2001. I spent 18 months on morphine and gained [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > >BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA! TNB, thats what it is. LeRoy > > So for now, Wendy Milnes is basically a prisoner in her own apartment, > > feeling abandoned by mostly everyone, except her loyal roommate > > Charles. > > I wonder if Charles wipes Wendy's a.s for her. This is a typical question, from a typical fat critic. What's with you guys and your fascination with the a.s wiping of a obese? It leads one to believe that you must have some kind of fecal fetish. For the life of me, I will never understand what drives this type of curiosity. Ragnar > > So for now, Wendy Milnes is basically a prisoner in her own apartment, > > feeling abandoned by mostly everyone, except her loyal roommate > > Charles. > > I wonder if Charles wipes Wendy's a.s for her. This is a typical question, from a typical fat critic. What's with you guys and your fascination with the a.s wiping of the obese? It leads one to believe that you must have some kind of fecal fetish. For the life of me, I will never understand what drives this type of curiosity. Ragnar > > > So for now, Wendy Milnes is basically a prisoner in her own > > > apartment, feeling abandoned by mostly everyone, except her loyal [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > the life of me, I will never understand what drives this type of > curiosity. http://amplestuff.safeshopper.com/84/cat84.htm?186 http://amplestuff.safeshopper.com/86/cat86.htm?186 From: "Appalled" <Fat-accepta...@isevil.com> Newsgroups: soc.support.fat-acceptance Subject: This is terribly sickening. NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 02 Jan 2003 13:19:55 EST And the response to this NAAFA discussion post is even more troubling. More proof that losing weight is a bad idea? "I know this is going to be a real gross-out but I gotta get it off my chest. Not too long ago I had a friend over to my house, my mom and dad got into a real bad fight. I'm not sure what started the fight but they got into it about how fat and unapealing my mother had gotten(i'm not sure how much she weighs but she is at least 450lbs). My father was yelling very loudly about how my mother was so fat that she could not wipe herself after going to the bathroom. My friend heard this, God I was so embarrassed. He then said that he has to help her wipe, I wanted to die! I noticed that my mom smelled bad, and now I know why....and so does my friend. I know how I felt but I cant immagin how my mother felt. Is there any tips that anyone can give me on how my mother con go to the bathroom in a more dignified way? Also can anyone think of a way for me to tell her that is not insulting to her ?" And the response - "reach problems are really embarassing but far more common than people let on. Not only very large people, but people with back and hip injuries. Try the Amplestuffs catalog, they have some good things. Other suggestions: a very long ruler, spoon or back scratcher with tp wrapped around the end. Usually takes a couple of tries. Some people like hand held shower heads. There's also small hand pumped boudets (spelling?) Good luck. Maybe if you let your mom read some of these responses she won't be so embarassed - because she's not alone." It must be really psychologically empowering to not be able to wipe your own a.s. No wonder morbidly obese people love themselves. Dr. Cohen ******** > > > > So for now, Wendy Milnes is basically a prisoner in her own > > > > apartment, feeling abandoned by mostly everyone, except her loyal [quoted text clipped - 65 lines] > It must be really psychologically empowering to not be able to wipe > your own a.s. OMG. You ARE fascinated with a.s wiping. You actually took the time to look something like this up. Holy sh.t! You MUST be a sh.t lover. I sure as hell never want to shake your hand. >No wonder morbidly obese people love themselves. Whatever, apparently some people here are in love with stranger things. Ragnar >> > It must be really psychologically empowering to not be able to wipe > >> your own a.s. Ah, Ragnar, Ragnar, Ragnar,,,, > OMG. You ARE fascinated with a.s wiping. You actually took the time to > look something like this up. Holy sh.t! You MUST be a sh.t lover. I [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > Ragnar Hey Ragnar (aka. Chubby-Chaser), Bravo, this is more like it. Just copy and paste. None of your limited brain function was required. Although the article was childish and stupid, it was exactly what I've come to expect from your useless, self-deprecating, bloated a.s. Now if you would only take the rest of my advice and seek out the psychiatric help your tiny little mind so desperately needs. BTW, how's your minimum wage clerkship at 7/11 going? Are all the fat people who come in and buy slurpies treating you like the whiny, sniveling, little, bitch that you are? Later slob, Jah Rastafari > > > > > So for now, Wendy Milnes is basically a prisoner in her own > > > > > apartment, feeling abandoned by mostly everyone, except her [quoted text clipped - 77 lines] > > Ragnar The inability to wipe one's own a.s crack is a common problem amongst the morbidly obese, hence reach tools are sold by Ample Stuff. Are you not accepting of this fact? Do you think that Wendy Milnes, who falls on the floor and can't get up afterwards, can wipe her own a.s crack? Are you fat or are you just trying to score with the local herd of sows? What does this bullsh*t have to do with social-security disability?? Stop cross-posting a.shole! That is what i'm wondering, but some people feel so low about themselves they have to step on others to lift themselves up. In article <1138249650.291046.97340@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>, Sidheag63@gmail.com says... > That is what i'm wondering, but some people feel so low about > themselves they have to step on others to lift themselves up. Yes, I have observed this numerous times, from obese people, and other self-wrecking greed-heads, like drug addicts. They compulsively criticise any (alleged) deficiency that they can find an another person. It is a way of distracting attention from their own obesity or other self-inflicted problems. They will even invent imaginary deficiencies in the other person, as an excuse to lash out.  SignatureGet Credit Where Credit Is Due http://www.cardreport.com/ Credit Tools, Reference, and Forum Why are you fixated on this topic? Get out more. W : ) > Why are you fixated on this topic? Get out more. > > W : ) Sooooo you want us to get out more huh? This weekend I made the mistake of "getting out" to the local Chinese Buffet on a Saturday night. All-you-can-eat for $15.00. What a big mistake! Never in my freaking life have I seen so many truly obese people in one place at one time! I'm not talking about plump or overweight either when I say obese I mean morbidly obese. Some of the women were easily over 400-500 lbs and judging from the many plates of food and the many return trips to the buffet I can guarantee you that they were not eating "one small meal a day" or ""less than a regular person" either! NO - these people were morbidly obese (mobese) because they were stuffing themselves silly. One particularly obese woman in the table in front of us spent the meal literally shovelling food into her face (and I mean shovelling). There is no way in hell that any of the obesity I saw there this weekend was "glandular". Unless of course you count a bloated stuffed stomach as a "gland". Sorry ... I had to get that off my chest. p.s. I live in this neighbourhood and I have never seen these people before. So what... they hide in their houses all day and just come out at night? For the record, the fire was NOT ignored, no ones house burned down BECAUSE of Wendy Milnes. It may be time for Wendy to have WLS. It is hard to live like that I'm sure. I was almost four hundred pounds three years ago ... I cannot imagine how she must feel. This is supposed to be a SUPPORT group ... so let's get to being supportive and not so cruel. > For the record, the fire was NOT ignored, no ones house burned down > BECAUSE of Wendy Milnes. It may be time for Wendy to have WLS. Maybe Wendy needs to be eating less. > It is > hard to live like that I'm sure. I was almost four hundred pounds > three years ago ... I cannot imagine how she must feel. This is > supposed to be a SUPPORT group ... so let's get to being supportive > and not so cruel. You are the one suggesting that Wendy gets sliced up. That's really cruel! If you had any willpower, you would not have elected to have WLS. That's the lazy a.s way out. Morbidly Obese Woman Admitted To Hospital After Suffering Stroke - Breaking news Morbidly Obese Woman Taken To Hospital By Laura Anthony http://abclocal.go.com/kgo/story?section=local&id=3843269 Jan. 24 - KGO - Last week we told you about a 500 pound Concord woman in desperate need of help. Twenty-nine-year-old Wendy Milnes asked us to tell her story last Friday. Because of her size, she sometimes falls and can't get up. She's had to call 911 dozens of times, but the paramedics are often unable to respond. This morning, though, they took her to John Muir Hospital suffering symptoms of a stroke. We'll keep you posted on her condition. Well, I guess my question is...if her mobility is this limited, who is bringing her all this food? I guess its the roomie. Its one thing to do it to yourself, its another to aid and abett. I watched that show on TLC the other night on the 1000lb pound man. He was completely immobile and bedridden - to the point where they had to remove the side of the house to take him to hospital. He couldn't even turn over himself. His wife, who was of relatively normal size, had been bringing him huge quantities of food (and I mean HUGE). The question for me in those situations is just how bizarre and enmeshed the relationships must be that support a person like that. I mean, I ate myself into obesity, and I was the one who walked to the fridge and the cupboard, selected what I was going to eat and how much. I did it all by myself. No one was trolling huge amounts of high calorie food in front of me. And then when I decided enough was enough, I dieted and exercised my way out. It just seems so strange to me to have a spouse or other loved one who can't leave their own home (and often their own room) and have become entirely helpless physically entirely due to obesity. They can't work or contribute to the household in other ways - they are as helpless and dependent as a baby. Why would anyone in their right mind purchase and bring them the quantities of food required to gain more weight? If I was caregiver for a person like that (I don't even want to think about what they do for toiletting and bathing), I'd be feeding them, but I'd be making it healthy and reasonably limited in quantity, and tell them if they want more, they have to come get it themselves. M. All of which is a moot point since she had a stroke and was admitted hospital earlier today http://abclocal.go.com/kgo/story?section=local&id=3843269 > Well, I guess my question is...if her mobility is this limited, who is > bringing her all this food? I guess its the roomie. > > Its one thing to do it to yourself, its another to aid and abett. > Why would anyone in their right mind purchase and bring them the > quantities of food required to gain more weight? If I was caregiver for [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > M. It's moot for the specific case, but not for the general nature of what I was saying about this condition needing other people to get to the point of morbid obesity, since a person this large can't work or look after themselves - and often are immobile to the point where someone else is buying, preparing and bringing the food to them. To me it seems like someone having a terrible drug or alcohol problem that is killing them, and family members making sure there was an endless supply of booze or heroin on hand. M. In article <1138222055.982488.305890@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> , Mary_Gordon@tvo.org says... > Well, I guess my question is...if her mobility is this limited, who is > bringing her all this food? I guess its the roomie. [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > The question for me in those situations is just how bizarre and > enmeshed the relationships must be that support a person like that. ... > Why would anyone in their right mind purchase and bring them the > quantities of food required to gain more weight? If I was caregiver for > a person like that (I don't even want to think about what they do for > toiletting and bathing), I'd be feeding them, but I'd be making it > healthy and reasonably limited in quantity, and tell them if they want > more, they have to come get it themselves. Codependence. Food addiction is a lot like drug addiction. I've known both types of addicts, and the attitudes are remarkably similar. And a pervasive addict attitude is their search for The Magic Enabler. Many of them feel absolutely *entitled* to totally leech off of another person, with zero concept of limits (either emotional or practical/financial.) In the case of a drug addict, the enabler is a non- addict who will pay for the drugs, and pay the rent, etc, so that the addict can totally avoid responsibility and consequences. This type of enabling-demand is based on guilt-tripping ("It's your fault that I am suffering, cuz you wouldn't help me.") And also on false promises of getting clean ("If you let me stay in your home for free, that will help me to shape up my life, get a job, etc.") The resource- wastage tends to be so severe, and the addict's behaviour so obnoxious, that these situations tend to be quite temporary. The enabler gets bled dry, and/or runs out of patience/sympathy. Then the addict goes out and looks for another one (offering the same line of BS.) In the above-described situation with the non-moble obese person, there is a similar dynamic. The enabler keeps providing food, in exchange for bogus "friendship," along with guilt-tripping ("Nobody else will take care of her, if I refuse.") And since the obese person is possibly on a disability benefit, and food is relatively cheap, the situation can last much longer than a drug-enabling arrangement. SignatureGet Credit Where Credit Is Due http://www.cardreport.com/ Credit Tools, Reference, and Forum > Why would anyone in their right mind purchase and bring them the > quantities of food required to gain more weight? If I was caregiver for [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > M. Are you sure? Why did you bring YOURSELF those quantities of food? Honey, I was obese (my BMI was in the 30's), I was not super super morbidly obese (BMI above 60). I cleaned my house, I took care of my family, I worked outside the home. I wasn't lying in a bed getting loved ones to bring me plates of food. And it took me three kids and twenty years to get there - it was slow and pernicious. Anyone who knows anything about obesity knows that you are sedentary and eat half a sandwich more than you need daily over 20 years, you'll end up the same way. It sneaks up on you - it's 10 pounds, and then its 30 pounds, and then its 50..... I wasn't a binge eater. The average American currently eats 350 calories daily more than they need....which adds up to poundage over time. Ever read a list of what the super super obese like this woman eat on a daily basis? For starters, when you weigh that much, even lying around, you need more calories than a person of healthy weight. They consume massive amounts of food - and given that they are so physically restricted and disabled by their size, its not surprising, since I doubt they can do much else. I was commenting on the co-dependency aspect. Mary G. |
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