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malaka - 23 Jan 2006 19:39 GMT
One of my downfalls is winging it, sooooo how do you go about making a meal
plan?   I use DietPower so I can easily enter in recipes.  I can also guess
at what I'm going to be eating and look at how it shapes up nutritionally.
If anyone has any suggestions on better planning I'd sure appreciate it.
nkd_one - 23 Jan 2006 19:42 GMT
http://www.livingonadime.com/ordering.htm

i have not just beans and and it's not a diet book...it's a eat cheap
book and making things from scratch is very healthy because it's not
factory food
malaka - 24 Jan 2006 14:15 GMT
> http://www.livingonadime.com/ordering.htm
>
> i have not just beans and and it's not a diet book...it's a eat cheap
> book and making things from scratch is very healthy because it's not
> factory food

Thanks!
Black Metal Martha - 24 Jan 2006 15:03 GMT
> One of my downfalls is winging it, sooooo how do you go about making a meal
> plan?   I use DietPower so I can easily enter in recipes.  I can also guess
> at what I'm going to be eating and look at how it shapes up nutritionally.
> If anyone has any suggestions on better planning I'd sure appreciate it.

A great resource is Cooking Light magazine. What I really enjoy about
it, is it not only gives recipes but meal ideas, exercise and travel
info.

Their website is really nice as well. www.cookinglight.com

Martha
malaka - 25 Jan 2006 15:39 GMT
>> One of my downfalls is winging it, sooooo how do you go about making a
>> meal
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>
> Martha

Thanks!
Scott - 25 Jan 2006 05:14 GMT
> One of my downfalls is winging it, sooooo how do you go about making a meal
> plan?   I use DietPower so I can easily enter in recipes.  I can also guess
> at what I'm going to be eating and look at how it shapes up nutritionally.
> If anyone has any suggestions on better planning I'd sure appreciate it.

I have the same problem with not planning my meals and just throwing
something together at the last minute.  I read a suggestion in _The
Pleasure Trap_ by Douglas Lisle and Alan Goldhamer (excellent book, btw)
-- they recommend working out weekly meal schedule so that you know what
you will be preparing each day of the week.  That way you have a plan and
it is easier to stick to it without going too far astray.  They say if one
week of repeating meals is too boring then make a two or three week
rotation.  Anyway, this is something that my grandmother used to do and I
think it helps reduce preparation time.  I think I'll have to try it out.

--Scott
Gardenia - 25 Jan 2006 09:58 GMT
When I decide on what I'd like to eat I go t
http://www.lifetimetv.com/reallife/df/tools/foodquota/index.html an
check to see whether my choices are good for me and if I need to ad
something or eat less of something. I've found that page very helpfu
for planning my meals

--
Gardenia
malaka - 25 Jan 2006 15:46 GMT
> When I decide on what I'd like to eat I go to
> http://www.lifetimetv.com/reallife/df/tools/foodquota/index.html and
> check to see whether my choices are good for me and if I need to add
> something or eat less of something. I've found that page very helpful
> for planning my meals.

That was great!  Thanks.
malaka - 25 Jan 2006 15:45 GMT
>> One of my downfalls is winging it, sooooo how do you go about making a
>> meal
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>
> --Scott

A great common sense approach.  I did develop a table.  One part has
ingredients I have on hand; another has 'reminders' of what I can have for
each meal.  Then I did a weekly one and penciled in meals.  One day a week
I'll try a new recipe to keep it from getting boring.  It sounds
complicated, but I do really well with outlines and tables.  Guess it's the
geek in me.  Maybe after I've been at this for awhile I won't need the
tables.  Chris seems to have her food intake down to a science! ;)
Mitch@this_is_not_a_real_address.com - 25 Jan 2006 20:48 GMT
>A great common sense approach.  I did develop a table.  One part has
>ingredients I have on hand; another has 'reminders' of what I can have for
>each meal.

By the way, stock up on Lean Cuisine (or Healthy Choice, or South
Beach, etc) frozen meals.  They have really gotten good, and they're a
great meal in a pinch, along with a salad and or Healthy Choice soup.

South Beach even makes a frozen personal-size pizza that has something
like 13g of fiber!

Another thing I do is make sure I plan the cooking around scheduled
activities.  I teach piano 2 afternoons a week, so I will schedule a
crockpot recipe for those days, or a make-ahead meal like a casserole

I also make pasta sauce from scratch and keep it frozen.  Thaw it out
and toss it on some WW pasta...very quick and easy, but healthy.
jmk - 25 Jan 2006 17:16 GMT
> One of my downfalls is winging it, sooooo how do you go about making a meal
> plan?   I use DietPower so I can easily enter in recipes.  I can also guess
> at what I'm going to be eating and look at how it shapes up nutritionally.
> If anyone has any suggestions on better planning I'd sure appreciate it.

 Have you considered http://www.savingdinner.com/?

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malaka - 25 Jan 2006 17:52 GMT
>> One of my downfalls is winging it, sooooo how do you go about making a
>> meal plan?   I use DietPower so I can easily enter in recipes.  I can
>> also guess at what I'm going to be eating and look at how it shapes up
>> nutritionally. If anyone has any suggestions on better planning I'd sure
>> appreciate it.
>  Have you considered http://www.savingdinner.com/?

2 serving low carb dinners.  Excellent!  Thanks.
Mitch@this_is_not_a_real_address.com - 25 Jan 2006 20:43 GMT
>One of my downfalls is winging it, sooooo how do you go about making a meal
>plan?

Funny, I was just about to post something about this.
My wife and I totally believe that the key to our weight loss success
has been planning meals for the entire week, so we never find
ourselves in that "let's just order a pizza" situation.

I do all of the cooking, shopping, and planning.
I've just started recording weekly meal plans, so that once I get
several of them, I can mix-and-match to make things easier.

All of my recipes are stored in a program called Living Cookbook.
It's EXCELLENT...highly recommend it.
http://www.livingcookbook.com/

Here's this week's plan:

Monday               Chicken fajitas / Spanish Rice
Tuesday    Black bean veggie burgers / fries
Wednesday    Chicken parmesan / pasta
Thursday    Sloppy joes / baked potato
Friday               Slow cooker beef stew
Saturday    Fish tacos
Sunday               Beef Brocc. Stir fry

Everything we make assumes WW "core plan" substitutions, such as brown
rice, whole wheat pasta and tortillas, 95% lean ground beef, etc.  I
eat meals like this every day, and I eat larger portions than I
should, and continue to lose weight.

With something like beef stew, pasta sauce, etc., I always make a
double or triple batch and freeze some.  So when I sit down to make a
meal plan, I check the freezer first to see what's there.
jmk - 25 Jan 2006 21:09 GMT
>>One of my downfalls is winging it, sooooo how do you go about making a meal
>>plan?
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> It's EXCELLENT...highly recommend it.
> http://www.livingcookbook.com/

I second the Living Cookbook recommendation!

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Beverly - 25 Jan 2006 21:27 GMT
> >>One of my downfalls is winging it, sooooo how do you go about making a meal
> >>plan?
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> --
> jmk in NC

I was just getting ready to post and ask if anyone else had used this
software.  I looked at their demo and it was impressive.  I've been
looking for software to store my recipes instead of the Word document I
currently use.  

Beverly
Mitch@this_is_not_a_real_address.com - 25 Jan 2006 21:59 GMT
> I've been
>looking for software to store my recipes instead of the Word document I
>currently use.  

We had all of our recipes stored in a gigantic Word document as well.
I didn't have to retype them because Living Cookbook has a cool
Capture function.
Beverly - 25 Jan 2006 22:28 GMT
> > I've been
> >looking for software to store my recipes instead of the Word document I
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> I didn't have to retype them because Living Cookbook has a cool
> Capture function.

I especially liked that feature!
jmk - 26 Jan 2006 16:16 GMT
>>>I've been
>>>looking for software to store my recipes instead of the Word document I
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>
> I especially liked that feature!

I find that the capture feature is quite nice and that the nutritional
database is pretty good and accurate (if Cooking Light, Eating Well and
so on are accurate).  This is especially useful if you modify a recipe
in some way -- for example by using turkey sausage or whole wheat
noodles.  In addition, I think that there is a points calculator thing
that you can use for WW (although WW has a trademark or patent or
whatever on Points, this is supposed to be relatively equivalent).

Nunya, do you use another recipe organization program?

Beverly, I thought that I'd never use the calendar in Living Cookbook
but I actually love it.

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Nunya B. - 26 Jan 2006 16:28 GMT
>>>>I've been
>>>>looking for software to store my recipes instead of the Word document I
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>
> Nunya, do you use another recipe organization program?

I use MasterCook but only because I got it for $9 at Office Max :)  It's not
great but it works.
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Scott - 28 Jan 2006 06:44 GMT
> All of my recipes are stored in a program called Living Cookbook.
> It's EXCELLENT...highly recommend it.
> http://www.livingcookbook.com/

I used Living Cookbook for a while and it is a very good piece of
software.  I was hoping to use it's inventory management features, but it
turned out to be too much work for me to keep the inventory up to date,
and I just used it as a plain cookbook (with fancy nutritional analysis).
I eventually stopped using it only because I got tired of having to keep a
separate computer with Windows on it just to use that software.  I like
the pretty recipe pages it generates, complete with nutritional label.
:-)

--Scott
Beverly - 28 Jan 2006 12:50 GMT
> > All of my recipes are stored in a program called Living Cookbook.
> > It's EXCELLENT...highly recommend it.
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>
> --Scott

Did you use their shopping list feature?  I just purchased the software but
haven't tried this feature.  I saw the inventory feature and thought it was
something I would never use but would use a shopping list for the recipes I
planned to use.  I think this would be helpful during the holidays.

Beverly
Scott - 28 Jan 2006 22:14 GMT
> Did you use their shopping list feature?  I just purchased the software but
> haven't tried this feature.  I saw the inventory feature and thought it was
> something I would never use but would use a shopping list for the recipes I
> planned to use.  I think this would be helpful during the holidays.

The real power of the shopping list feature is when you are using the
inventory, because it will only list the items that you don't already
have.  If you're not using the inventory, it will list all the ingredients
from all the recipes, and then you can easily just cross off what you
already have.  It will combine all the like ingredients together on the
list and then put it in units as they are sold at the grocery store (like
2lb of flour instead of 3 cups, for example).  If I recall correctly, you
can customize the package sizes that it puts on the shopping list.

--Scott
Beverly - 29 Jan 2006 01:55 GMT
> > Did you use their shopping list feature?  I just purchased the software but
> > haven't tried this feature.  I saw the inventory feature and thought it was
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>
> --Scott

Thanks.  This sounds like it would work great for me.
A Ross - 26 Jan 2006 14:10 GMT
> One of my downfalls is winging it, sooooo how do you go about making a meal
> plan?   I use DietPower so I can easily enter in recipes.  I can also guess
> at what I'm going to be eating and look at how it shapes up nutritionally.
> If anyone has any suggestions on better planning I'd sure appreciate it.

I make up my menus based on what's at hand in the pantry and freezer. I
make my shopping list from whatever I'm missing. I post the menu on the
fridge so I know what to take out of the freezer, and so my family isn't
asking "what's for dinner." I leave the previous week's menus around so
we're not eating meatloaf every Tuesday...

This has helped me in a number of ways--saving money at the store,
staying away from "let's order out" nights because I'm out of ideas, and
not standing in front of the fridge eating mindlessly while I ponder
what I'm going to make.

I have a pretty extensive cookbook and cooking magazine collection from
which the family chooses dishes to try--my girls have been learning to
cook, and it's good practice for them to be involved in the menu
planning and shopping.

Oh--and there's a green salad on the table every night. That helps.

Amy
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Carol Frilegh - 26 Jan 2006 14:37 GMT
In article
<aroneeight-D69970.09110426012006@newsstand.cit.cornell.edu>, A Ross
<aroneeight@cornell.edu> wrote:

> > One of my downfalls is winging it, sooooo how do you go about making a meal
> > plan?   I use DietPower so I can easily enter in recipes.  I can also guess
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>
> Oh--and there's a green salad on the table every night. That helps.

I stock up on favorite items at Costco and portion freeze meats. They
have frozen ocean caught shrimp and scallops, great sugar free smoked
salmon, organic salad mixes, cheap dry curd cottage cheese, eggs and
other cheeses. The Dole juice packed pineapple, Sun Maid rasisins and
Tropicana O.J. are real money savers. i have limitations and special
requirements being celiac, and nuts are fairly priced at Costco.

(no $$ interest)
Diva
Doug Freyburger - 26 Jan 2006 17:49 GMT
> > One of my downfalls is winging it, sooooo how do you go about making a meal
> > plan
>
> I make up my menus based on what's at hand in the pantry and freezer.

The question becomes - what does "winging it" mean?

> I
> make my shopping list from whatever I'm missing. I post the menu on the
> fridge so I know what to take out of the freezer, and so my family isn't
> asking "what's for dinner." I leave the previous week's menus around so
> we're not eating meatloaf every Tuesday...

To me, the planning goes on at the grocery store.  I buy
stuff that will get me to my goals for the week.  In my
case I'm a low carber so I buy the sort of veggies that will
get me to this week's carb quota, but so long as you
know your goals you'll be able to buy the types of foods
that will get you there.

> This has helped me in a number of ways--saving money at the store,
> staying away from "let's order out" nights because I'm out of ideas, and
> not standing in front of the fridge eating mindlessly while I ponder
> what I'm going to make.

A problem I have with pre-done menus is they have items
I don't like.  If I'm doing the shopping I buy stuff I like.
Say those rutabagas look good today, screw those
horrible bell pepper things, oh looky turkeys are on sale
and so on through the store.  Once I've bought a bunch of
stuff that I'll like and also that will have me hit my weekly
carb counting goal (or fat gram counting goal or calorie
counting goal or whatever), then I'll have the ingredients to
make meals that work within my plan.

> I have a pretty extensive cookbook and cooking magazine collection from
> which the family chooses dishes to try--my girls have been learning to
> cook, and it's good practice for them to be involved in the menu
> planning and shopping.

I prefer to learn cooking methods and to let the stuff
on the shelves determine the recipe.  Different strokes
for different folks but they are really variations on the
same theme.

> Oh--and there's a green salad on the table every night. That helps.

With cut up colorfull raw veggies and some bottles of various
dressings.

So it appears that to Amy and I doing the planning at the
grocery store doesn't count as winging it.  But to me neither
does opening the fridge and assembling the recipe on the
spot based on pre-approved ingredients.
Black Metal Martha - 26 Jan 2006 18:20 GMT
> > > One of my downfalls is winging it, sooooo how do you go about making a meal
> > > plan
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> know your goals you'll be able to buy the types of foods
> that will get you there.

This is so important to me. I'm not a lowcarber, but a "high carber". I
need food that will give me lots of energy. Plus, I need a lot of
healthy snacks to get me through the times when I am hungry between
meals.

I like to eat in the seasons; the produce is always better in season
than out. They taste better and have more nutrition. I plan my meals
around the seasons, plus I try to make my larger, more complicated
meals during the weekend.

However, I alwys have quick things in the pantry (cupboards) if I just
don't feel like cooking.

For example, a quick meal would be a whole wheat bagel piza (made with
vegetarian pasta sauce & lowfat cheese) or tuna salad with ready to go
chopped veggies (I prepared ahead of time).

I buy mixed dried fruit and put them in individual-sized zip locked
baggies for snacking and I always have white popping corn if I have the
nibblies.

One of my favorite snack foods these days in lowfat or nonfat Brown Cow
yogurt. The chocolate flavor is to die for!

Martha
me@privacy.net - 26 Jan 2006 21:43 GMT
>One of my favorite snack foods these days in lowfat or nonfat Brown Cow
>yogurt. The chocolate flavor is to die for!

Hmm.... definitely will have to try that
Gregory Morrow - 27 Jan 2006 04:01 GMT
> I like to eat in the seasons; the produce is always better in season
> than out. They taste better and have more nutrition.

Not necessarily - you are forgetting the importance (and often superior
quality) of frozen fruits and vegetables at certain times of the year...

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murch@nwlink.com - 29 Jan 2006 01:07 GMT
> One of my downfalls is winging it, sooooo how do you go about making a meal
> plan?   I use DietPower so I can easily enter in recipes.  I can also guess
> at what I'm going to be eating and look at how it shapes up nutritionally.
> If anyone has any suggestions on better planning I'd sure appreciate it.

You might also want to take a look at BigOven (www.bigoven.com).  With
it, you can access about 150,000 recipes in a shared online archive,
with recipes tagged things like "Weight Watchers", "Low Carb",
"Diabetic", etc.  You can then import the ones you want with a click of
the mouse, and drag and drop recipes onto grocery lists and meal
calendars. Export to a Palm or Pocket PC device, post recipes to your
personal recipe webpage, and more.  Analyze recipes for nutritional
content; free 30 day trial at http://www.bigoven.com.

- Steve (founder & ceo, BigOven)
jmk - 30 Jan 2006 16:14 GMT
>>One of my downfalls is winging it, sooooo how do you go about making a meal
>>plan?   I use DietPower so I can easily enter in recipes.  I can also guess
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>
> - Steve (founder & ceo, BigOven)

What are your plans to support OS X?

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murch@nwlink.com - 30 Jan 2006 19:21 GMT
> What are your plans to support OS X?
>
> --
> jmk in NC

We don't have any current plans to support OS X.  We do love the Mac
(anecdotally, an Apple ][+ was once my first PC way back in 1978... and
I once had the pleasure of dining with Steve Jobs when he visited my
college campus back in the mid '80s) -- however, realistically, we have
to look at the current installed base.  It's changing, clearly, but
when it rises above about 20% of the marketplace, we'll be able to take
a closer look at whether a Mac version makes economic sense for us.
 
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