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Anza - 26 Jan 2006 06:47 GMT
Dear Google Groups Public,

I am a northwestern middle school student who is interested in doing a
Science Fair project on diet pills, and their effect on the American
public and body image.

I am conducting an expirament based on the different opinions on people
who have enountered diet pills in their lifes, and in order to get
accurate results I must collect information from as many people as
possible.

So here's your chance to rant, rave, or speak nuetrally about diet
pills and all their effects. I need responses from all different types
of people and would greatly appreciate it if you took some time out of
your day to help a student in need.

Your names/screen names/emails will be kept confidential, and will not
be used in the presentation of my results.

Once again, I would greatly appreciate your inputs. Thank you for your
time.

Sincerely,
an 8th grade student at MMS.
Willow - 26 Jan 2006 16:11 GMT
As a teacher I would tell you to go to the library and do your papers and
quit trying to find an easy way out by having us do it for you.

I might also add that if you want to do a research that any decent teacher
would accept, you have to cite your sources, not promise to keep them
confidential.

Finaly, the last place you want to have an objective opinion sample about
diet pills is a diet NG.

C'mon, you can do better than that.

Signature

Will~

"... so that's how liberty ends, in a round of applause."

Queen Amidala, The revenge of the Syth.

> Dear Google Groups Public,
>
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> Sincerely,
> an 8th grade student at MMS.
Anza - 26 Jan 2006 22:31 GMT
Excuse me, but this is not what I asked for in my post.

I am not 'finding an easy way out', as you put it, I am surveying
people as this is a science project, not a research paper.

I am trying to collect information from people all over about their
veiws on the subject, not trying to learn about Diet Pills. If I wanted
to do that I could easily do that without the help of the
Google-Groupers.

So please, if you have nothing important to type to me that might help
me in this project, don't waste your time.

My teacher recommended I try Google Groups, as we haven't much time in
the project for me to get a lot of opinions.

Maybe your time would be better spent not voicing an opinion on a
project you obviously know nothing about.

Thanks!
Anza - 26 Jan 2006 22:36 GMT
And the confidentiality was to encourage people to speak up.

This is an 8th grade project.

My teacher would except 'Google Group Diet Support Member' as a
citation.
The Queen of Cans and Jars - 26 Jan 2006 22:43 GMT
> And the confidentiality was to encourage people to speak up.
>
> This is an 8th grade project.
>
> My teacher would except 'Google Group Diet Support Member' as a
> citation.

1. The word is "accept."

2. Not everyone who posts here does so through Google.
Janie - 26 Jan 2006 22:50 GMT
> And the confidentiality was to encourage people to speak up.
>
> This is an 8th grade project.
>
> My teacher would except 'Google Group Diet Support Member' as a
> citation.

Dear Student,

The word is "accept" not "except".  Please check your dictionary and learn
the difference.

Diet pills = quickly regaining any weight that was lost.  When a person
stops taking the pills the weight quickly comes back.  Some of them are very
dangerous, especially for anyone who already has medical problems such as
high blood pressure.
Matthew Venhaus - 26 Jan 2006 23:23 GMT
> Excuse me, but this is not what I asked for in my post.

It is unclear what you are asking for in your original post. What
specific data do you wish to gather from those who have "encountered"
diet pills? In which diet pills are you interested?

And for my own amusement, how do these data become the basis of an 8th
grade science project?

Matthew
Willow - 27 Jan 2006 06:34 GMT
That's the way to get help... by being rude !!

You go for it !

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Will~

"... so that's how liberty ends, in a round of applause."

Queen Amidala, The revenge of the Syth.

> Excuse me, but this is not what I asked for in my post.
>
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>
> Thanks!
Anza - 28 Jan 2006 02:15 GMT
All I am asking is how people see Diet Pills.

Were their experiences good or bad, and so forth.
What brands did they use.
Would they recommend them to others.

If we are going to be reduced to point out spelling, which I had
overlooked previously because I found the mistake trivial, then I'll
remind you Willow, 'finaly' as you put it in your first post, is more
commonly spelled 'finally'.

Mr. Venhaus, this became important to an 8th grade science project
because I would like to learn about Diet Pills. It has nothing to do
with aspirations to take dietary supplements.

And I don't think I'm being rude, I'm just asking for you people to
lend a hand to a student in need, instead of beating them up verbally
over the internet because they spelled one word incorrectly.

So, Willow, all in all I just don't understand why you think it's your
job to give me information that I did not ask for. If my teacher
doesn't 'accept' my data, then that's my problem, not yours. This is
very unencouraging, for me, as a student, to find that instead of being
able to use an engine such as Google Groups for getting data, all I
will retreive from the experience are a few insults and critisisms.

Maybe you could tell me how you feel about Diet Pills, instead? Do you
find them useful, or a hoax? Have you used them?

Perhaps we could work together, instead of continue to fight a fight
that isn't worth dirt?
Ignoramus13653 - 28 Jan 2006 03:14 GMT
Anza, for your information, there were not many people in this
newsgroup who took diet pills. I can recall only one, and that person
is not posting anymore.

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> All I am asking is how people see Diet Pills.
>
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> Perhaps we could work together, instead of continue to fight a fight
> that isn't worth dirt?

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Anza - 28 Jan 2006 08:01 GMT
See, now that's the kind of information that is helpful.

Thank you, Ignoramus, for your kind and gentle information.
Rachael Reynolds - 28 Jan 2006 08:55 GMT
> All I am asking is how people see Diet Pills.
>
[quoted text clipped - 27 lines]
> Perhaps we could work together, instead of continue to fight a fight
> that isn't worth dirt?

Since you are finding the group unhelpful Anza, I suggest you run along and
play elsewhere.

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Anza - 28 Jan 2006 17:08 GMT
What makes everyone think that just because I'm in 8th grade I'm stupid
and ignorant?

Bitter, bitter world.
Magalver - 29 Jan 2006 16:35 GMT
To all the critics to Anza's posting:

I'm amazed to see the responses to Anza's e-mail - especially from the
suppose-to-be role models of our students.  I would say, good for you
Anza!  Try all the resources you can get.  When you get a job one day
you will be paid for your effectiveness, not how many hours you spend
looking getting the same information from a different, more
tim-consuming source.  Its how clever you work, not how many hours you
work

People, why measure the input and not the output?!

I don't understand why in many instances the rudest people get to deal
with the public.
- The unfriendly lady behind the information desk
- The medical doctor who only cares about his pocket and not really the
patients
- The teacher who chooses to respond from her/his 'critical parent'
part instead of the 'caring parent'. Don't you think you could have
handled the situation in a more adult manner?  What about giving
someone the benefit of the doubt instead of expecting the worst?  And
to go on being childish about correct spelling etc, it's not your place
to give unsolicited advice!  How childish can an adult be...?

I think it would have been a more constructive approach to be a mentor
in this 8th grader's process rather than a bully.

Shame on you. There I also acted out of my critical parent - which is
probably the only language you understand.

They say 'how you see the world is a reflection of who you are inside"
- what is your shadow side trying to tell you?  Maybe you only had
bullies as 'mentors' when you were growing up.  Take a break.  Go on
holiday.  Get laid or something. Get over your past.  If none of that
is a factor, just grow up, will you?
Wendy - 29 Jan 2006 22:39 GMT
I don't have a personal experience with diet pills although I have at
times considered taking them. When I have been frustrated with my weight
loss efforts I have thought maybe I should just take a diet pill. The
reasons I haven't are: 1. they are expensive  2 if they really worked
everyone would be thin.

I did have two family members that took phen-fen and it worked very well
when they took them. When it was no longer available they both gained he
weight back and then some. So obviously the pills weren't really much
help not to mention dangerous.

Hope this helps.

Wendy
Willow - 30 Jan 2006 05:47 GMT
Anza's post has been posted millions of times on usenet for as long as I can
remember. So have post like yours for that matter.

This is a very typical trolling gimmick, it's not even funny anymore.

If you both are not trolls, sorry, but hey, if it smells like a dog, barks
like a dog, bites like at dog, I call it a dog, until I see proof to the
contrary

This being said I love my dog, I just don't try to have civilised
conversation with her any time of the day.

:o) have a wonderful love and joy filled evening.

Signature

Will~

"... so that's how liberty ends, in a round of applause."

Queen Amidala, The revenge of the Syth.

> To all the critics to Anza's posting:
>
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> holiday.  Get laid or something. Get over your past.  If none of that
> is a factor, just grow up, will you?
Magalver - 31 Jan 2006 05:28 GMT
Dear Will,

Thank you for your kind e-mail.  Maybe I'm too naive about these kinds
of things...  If it is a 'dog' then I'm not going to waste any more
energy giving input on the matter.  Let me get out of this 'room'.

I love my dog too.
rgds,
Yolanda
Patricia  Heil - 27 Jan 2006 01:08 GMT
> Dear Google Groups Public,
>
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> Sincerely,
> an 8th grade student at MMS.

First, get a dictionary and proofread your spelling.  That may sound harsh
but you are never going to get anywhere if you can't spell correctly.  It's
embarrassing to anybody who hires you.

Second forget diet pills.
 
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