Since I'm on a diet, I find my mind occupied with what am I doing right,
what am I doing wrong? Should I try something? What are the chances it'll
fit my diet? Who makes no fat/cholesterol/salt breakfast, lunch and
dinner products?
I'm overthinking my diet almost to the point that I don't think much
about anything else.
Watching Food TV is torture. Shopping takes forever but I actually don't
mind.
Gotta settle more on veggies which amounts to a 180 from my jumbo burgs
and 6-egg/avocado/jack cheese omelettes.
Pain-in-the-a.s I insist!
It hasn't invaded my dreams, yet.
I can do it! After 20 years I quit smoking cold turkey September 1, 2004,
10 am, and haven't had one since.
Just so thought-time consuming. I haven't even begun to exercise. Just
thinking about my diet is exhausting. Well maybe not really. :)
And I still have my cold and it's freezing outside and I'm just whining
some more.
Andy
270/240/200
sycochkn - 20 Feb 2006 15:33 GMT
Your diet needs to contain fat starch Cholesterol and salt that is what food
is made of. The question is how much of each, and how much of others do you
need.
Bob
> Since I'm on a diet, I find my mind occupied with what am I doing right,
> what am I doing wrong? Should I try something? What are the chances it'll
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> Andy
> 270/240/200
Ignoramus25110 - 20 Feb 2006 15:49 GMT
> Since I'm on a diet, I find my mind occupied with what am I doing right,
> what am I doing wrong? Should I try something? What are the chances it'll
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> And I still have my cold and it's freezing outside and I'm just whining
> some more.
I think that there is very little wrong with this. Dieting requires a
lot of "mental focus", you are seeing side effects of that. Erring in
this direction is more productive than erring in the other direction.
i
Mitch@this_is_not_a_real_address.com - 21 Feb 2006 16:41 GMT
>I think that there is very little wrong with this. Dieting requires a
>lot of "mental focus", you are seeing side effects of that.
I agree. Once you get on track and change your habits, you'll go on
auto-pilot and it'll be easy.
Beverly - 20 Feb 2006 16:08 GMT
> Since I'm on a diet, I find my mind occupied with what am I doing right,
> what am I doing wrong? Should I try something? What are the chances it'll
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> I'm overthinking my diet almost to the point that I don't think much
> about anything else.
There's nothing wrong in spending the time to find those foods that fit
your new diet. I think you'll find that as time goes on choosing the
right foods will become second nature and you won't be spending as much
time analyzing everything.
Hope the cold gets better soon.
Beverly - who has another sinus infection at the moment :(
> Watching Food TV is torture. Shopping takes forever but I actually don't
> mind.
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> Andy
> 270/240/200
The Historian - 20 Feb 2006 16:19 GMT
> Since I'm on a diet, I find my mind occupied with what am I doing right,
> what am I doing wrong? Should I try something? What are the chances it'll
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> I'm overthinking my diet almost to the point that I don't think much
> about anything else.
I recall coming across a quotation attributed to Botvinnik that 'part
of playing chess is thinking what chess is.' Perhaps part of dieting is
thinking about dieting? I also spend more time thinking about food; but
that's better than the mindless eating I've done for the past 40 years.
Neil
385/352/200
A Ross - 20 Feb 2006 16:20 GMT
some snippage...
> I'm overthinking my diet almost to the point that I don't think much
> about anything else.
Hey Andy,
I think many of us have been in your shoes...It's not a good place.
I think the single best thing I do to keep myself sane and on track is
to understand that there are no "bad" foods. I can eat whatever I
want--but not all at one time.
I think programs like Weight Watchers are excellent because they do more
to teach you about portion control and healthy eating habits. They don't
(last I knew) limit your food choices to one or two food groups, and
they offer flexibility for folks who need more variety in their diet.
Being a foodie, you should be able to scrounge up some healthy recipes
that fit your taste and lifestyle. Your omelette could be made with egg
whites or egg-beaters, and there's nothing wrong with avocado or
cheese--I eat both daily on maintenance. Your jumbo burger could be made
with lean beef or ground turkey breast. Or you could settle for a mini
version of your favorite meal, just to satisfy your longings...
If you live by the "eat less, exercise more" credo, and understand that
calories *do* matter, you'll get to where you want to be. For some of us
it takes years, for other a matter of months, because everyone is
different.
Good luck,
Amy
Nunya B. - 20 Feb 2006 19:50 GMT
> Since I'm on a diet, I find my mind occupied with what am I doing right,
> what am I doing wrong? Should I try something? What are the chances it'll
> fit my diet? Who makes no fat/cholesterol/salt breakfast, lunch and
> dinner products?
That's normal. You're dealing with your health here, it's very important.
You're learning something new and it takes time.
> I'm overthinking my diet almost to the point that I don't think much
> about anything else.
For now that's not a bad thing. Again, your health is at stake and needs to
be a priority. Eventually the rest of your life will invade your thoughts
again.
> Watching Food TV is torture. Shopping takes forever but I actually don't
> mind.
I stopped watching Food TV at first. I also went so far as to not watch
anything on live tv, just tape and TIVO so I could blast through the
commercials :) Shopping is an art form. It's one of my hobbies ya know. I
read labels like crazy.
> I can do it! After 20 years I quit smoking cold turkey September 1, 2004,
> 10 am, and haven't had one since.
There's the spirit!
> And I still have my cold and it's freezing outside and I'm just whining
> some more.
I'm with you there friend. 4 weeks and counting on this current
cold/respiratory infection. Soldier on.

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Andy - 20 Feb 2006 20:06 GMT
the volleyballchick,
Thanks for the nice reply!
[tick-tock, tick-tock] <G>
Andy
Doug Freyburger - 20 Feb 2006 20:27 GMT
> Since I'm on a diet, I find my mind occupied with what am I doing right,
> what am I doing wrong? Should I try something? What are the chances it'll
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> I'm overthinking my diet almost to the point that I don't think much
> about anything else.
New habits to a while to ingrain. Don't worry about it - It will
become gradually more automatic over time.
> And I still have my cold and it's freezing outside and I'm just whining
> some more.
Pretty much the right forum for kvetching ...
> Andy
> 270/240/200
I thought you said you were whining? Looks like bragging to me.
Andy - 20 Feb 2006 20:36 GMT
>> Andy
>> 270/240/200
>
> I thought you said you were whining? Looks like bragging to me.
OH that? I have to lose weight, lower the LDL and rais the HDL cholesterol,
control sodium afecting my high B/P, then there's that exercise crap to
start. Who's bragging, me? It's all a pain-in-the-a.s if you ask me.
Andy
The Historian - 20 Feb 2006 21:45 GMT
>>> Andy
>>> 270/240/200
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>
> Andy
Hmm, whenever I mention my weight loss at work I always get comments
such as "wish I could do that." Did you stop to think that losing 30
pounds puts you far ahead of most Americans? Andy, give yourself a pat
on the back for once!
Neil
385/352/200
melaka - 21 Feb 2006 00:29 GMT
> Since I'm on a diet, I find my mind occupied with what am I doing right,
> what am I doing wrong? Should I try something? What are the chances it'll
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> Andy
> 270/240/200
I had to laugh when reading your post. I'm obsessively checking and
rechecking everything in DietPower. I figure it's a normal learning curve.
As I get to know foods and nutrients, I'm already worrying less about what
to eat. Watching TV is torture with all the food ads! In one hour, I
counted 7 food ads! yikes. You've already lost THIRTY pounds!? Awesome.
And WAY TO GO on the smoking - both are a humungous accomplishment. It's
freezing outside here too, but tomorrow I'm going on my first hike in five
years. I don't care how freakin cold it is, I'm out there. I might only
last 20 minutes, but it's better than nuttin. Keep up the all consuming,
it's working!
Andy - 21 Feb 2006 10:10 GMT
> I had to laugh when reading your post. I'm obsessively checking and
> rechecking everything in DietPower. I figure it's a normal learning
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> it is, I'm out there. I might only last 20 minutes, but it's better
> than nuttin. Keep up the all consuming, it's working!
melaka,
Thanks for the reply.
What I have to arrive at is a menu that I can live with. Maybe a weekly
menu so I don't accidently die of boredom. <G>
All the best,
Andy
melaka - 21 Feb 2006 13:29 GMT
>> I had to laugh when reading your post. I'm obsessively checking and
>> rechecking everything in DietPower. I figure it's a normal learning
[quoted text clipped - 17 lines]
>
> Andy
Hi Andy,
There's a couple of posts about menu planning in this group. One from me (I
changed the spelling on my nick) entitled Menu Planning, dated 1/23/06. A
second one entitled Eating the Same Menus ..., dated 1/28/06, and a third
entitled Menu Planning Help dated 2/4/06. There are some excellent nuggets
of information and web sites in those posts. Hope that helps. I have
found the 3 meals and 2 snacks approach works for me.
I'm also taking an online lowfat cooking class that's had a couple of good
recipes so far. One is Italian Meatloaf with 5 grams of fat, and less than
200 calories per serving. If you're interested I can email them.
(guess it's time for a signature)
Mel
232/215/140
Carol Frilegh - 21 Feb 2006 14:01 GMT
> >> I had to laugh when reading your post. I'm obsessively checking and
> >> rechecking everything in DietPower. I figure it's a normal learning
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> >> it is, I'm out there. I might only last 20 minutes, but it's better
> >> than nuttin. Keep up the all consuming, it's working!
I'm afraid 'all consuming" in relation to food is not working :-)
I have my annual "creeping water weight" (delusion) crisis. Translated,
it means practicing and over tasting items for the cooking course I
teach, which thankfully ends for me this Thursday. This is accompanied
by a mean disposition and short temper until I get a handle on my mouth
and it translates to acceptable readings on the scale and tape measure.
At these times I don't ask for support, I just get my a-- in gear and
start cutting back and counting calories for a time.
That calls for , regular daily sessions with Fitday, planning a menu
and getting the ---- out of the kitchen between meals even though the
computer is in there. Forgive the bad blank spaces.
Diva

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melaka - 22 Feb 2006 13:43 GMT
>> >> I had to laugh when reading your post. I'm obsessively checking and
>> >> rechecking everything in DietPower. I figure it's a normal learning
[quoted text clipped - 22 lines]
>
> Diva
What cooking course do you teach? Having to taste everything sounds like a
caloric challenge. Are you also saying that it sets off the urge to binge?
Talk about a double whammy. I admire your ability to get your *** in gear
and just do what it (blank space) takes! ;)
- Mel
232/214/140
Carol Frilegh - 22 Feb 2006 14:15 GMT
> >> >> I had to laugh when reading your post. I'm obsessively checking and
> >> >> rechecking everything in DietPower. I figure it's a normal learning
[quoted text clipped - 30 lines]
> - Mel
> 232/214/140
I follow a special diet for celiac disease and other gastric issues.
newcomers find excluding rice, grain, corn, potatoes and some other
foods daunting. i show them how to enjoy good food while they are
healing.
Diva
www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info
melaka - 25 Feb 2006 13:26 GMT
In article <rPqdnex9ZIfR8WHeRVn-gw@rcn.net>, melaka <melaka@nospam.org>
wrote:
> > In article <QoOdnUl4r-QaiGbenZ2dnUVZ_v-dnZ2d@rcn.net>, melaka
> > <melaka@nospam.org> wrote:
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> - Mel
> 232/214/140
I follow a special diet for celiac disease and other gastric issues.
newcomers find excluding rice, grain, corn, potatoes and some other
foods daunting. i show them how to enjoy good food while they are
healing.
Diva
www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info
Thanks! I have a friend I forwarded the link to who has Crohn's. I'm going
to try the yoghurt, sounds great.
- Melanie
The Queen of Cans and Jars - 21 Feb 2006 21:58 GMT
> Who makes no fat/cholesterol/salt breakfast, lunch and dinner products?
While you're busy doing all this thinking, why not think about the fact
that your body needs fat, cholesterol, and sodium to function and that
cutting them all out completely is a silly idea?
Balance is the key.
DestinyintheDark - 24 Feb 2006 02:48 GMT
I try to be mindful of my food choices but I know what you mean. It can
take over your life! ;-)
On top of that I have people asking me all the time for 'my diet'.
I always think too much about food but at least I am obsessing about
eating healthy now. I still read all the cooking magazines but now with
an eye on what might be low fat and/or healthier. I try to cook up
batches of food once a week so I will have some portions in the
freezer. Made my turkey burgs on the new George Foreman (thanks for all
the tips everyone) and they were delicious and provided me with many
lunches on the run!
at least you are tinking about improving your life that is more than
most do and I am always glad to see someone whining so I can whine too!
It is way too cold here!!!
D
Andy - 24 Feb 2006 08:12 GMT
> I try to be mindful of my food choices but I know what you mean. It can
> take over your life! ;-)
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> most do and I am always glad to see someone whining so I can whine too!
> It is way too cold here!!!
DestinyintheDark,
YAY for us!
I'm here for advice on undoing my bad eating habits.
When I quit smoking, I went to that support group. I realized that
support groups can be a hit or miss. For smoking, listening to other
contributors I realized we as a group had a grand excuse to blame the
group for not quitting.
I'll never forget smoking my last cigarette on Wednesday, September 1st,
2004 at 10am (I looked at the clock when I put it out.).
I left that group. I didn't discuss it with anyone, just kept the problem
entirely to myself. I didn't use drugs to start smoking and I sure as
hell wasn't going to use drugs to stop. It was cold turkey. I figured at
$4.00 a pack * 2 packs a day I could save a lot of money.
As a reward I bought Sirius satellite radio for $11.00 a month. The cost
of practically 3 packs of cigs (or a day and a half).
I've saved thousands of dollars and done my life a favor.
Altering a diet however is a support requirement as I mentioned above
because eating is just whatever you feel like, until the ball drops. If
you get my meaning.
Diet: ON
All the best,
Andy
Carol Frilegh - 28 Feb 2006 17:35 GMT
> I try to be mindful of my food choices but I know what you mean. It can
> take over your life! ;-)
And is doing that to mine right now!
I had a large hunk of Parmesan Cheese and large individual litle boxes
of raisins ( both items are calorie dense) and they have been gradually
disappearing...into me. It's been frigid weather and I'm sitting out
the deep freeze in front of my Mac. Overeating and inactivity shows.
both on the scale and at the mid-section.
I turfed out the last of the offenders and am not eating between meals
so I can get a handle on this as a sudden weight gain is alarming. The
cheese being salty holds water but raisins are not salty. They have 129
calories per individual small (not mini) box and 34 grams of carbs. I
have been socking them away, to the tune of 3-4 packages a day. It has
to end. This is not at all like me! There are other consequences, pain
and gas. Dried fruit is only allowed in moderation on my celiac diet
and rasins are particularly hard to digest.
Diva in Distress
Andy - 28 Feb 2006 20:08 GMT
Carol Frilegh <cma@sympatico.ca> wrote in news:280220061235021555%
cma@sympatico.ca:
>> I try to be mindful of my food choices but I know what you mean. It can
>> take over your life! ;-)
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>
> Diva in Distress
Tomorrow is a new day.
Don't aggrevate yourself.
Hang in there. Chin up and all that rot!
:)
Andy
Carol Frilegh - 28 Feb 2006 22:33 GMT
> Carol Frilegh <cma@sympatico.ca> wrote in news:280220061235021555%
> cma@sympatico.ca:
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>
> Andy
Both chins are up!