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Weight Loss Forum / General Topics / March 2006So, what do you guys buy at grocery stores?
I dunno, it may sound stupid, but I kind of curious about the shopping habits of other people, especially those who are trying to loose weight. I mean, there's a lot people saying "healthy" foods are cheaper than "processed" and whatnot, I'm just curious what everyone tends to get for their weekly shopping (not a whole big list, mind you, but just a sample.) Me, I have to balance being a budget with everything else, so I usually shop at Aldis. (Family's shopped their for years, so I've gotten used to a lot of the brands, but I'll sometimes pick up other stuff from other places.) I've got a several "regular" items I get about every week or two, for better or worse. Honestly try to get things I can make several meals out of, instead of a "eat it for one meal" and it's gone stuff, but you know, you can't always do that. Let's see.. regulars, dry milk (gotten to where I can mix it just right and, after being chilled) it tastes just as good. Granola cereal (like eating it with yogurt for a snack), a few other cereals (although often I don't eat "breakfast" so they can sit for awhile.) Ramen noodles (it's a requirement somewhere, if you're in college, you have to eat them, dunno why... ;) bread, cheese slices, packages of pre-sliced ham (lunchmeat type, can make two sandwiches per packet), boxes of mac and cheese (.27 cents a piece), banquet chicken, bags of either fries or tater tots (I know, I know, but I oven cook them, as opposed to frying). The selection of vegetables (for salads) and fruits isn't the greatest, so with the exception of bananas, I usually get my lettuce carrots and other salad stuff elsewhere. Also my beef, I get somewhere else, for occasional hamburgers (and, less often than not, spaghetti.) I dunno, me personally, I'm not big on spending a lot of time cooking (I mean, I'm by myself, what's the point?) so trying to find something that's cheap, quick, and healthy (and actually tastes decent) isn't the easiest thing to to. So, how about you guys? What constitutes a week shopping for all of you? __ Need a new limb? Pet recently die? Got a problem you think only magic can solve? Visit Dr Kaidian's Necromancy and Body Transplant Site! http://m-allan.home.mchsi.com/wsb/index.html To respond via email, remove the "54". > I dunno, it may sound stupid, but I kind of curious about the shopping > habits of other people, especially those who are trying to loose > weight. #1, go buy a George Foreman grill. Do you have a freezer available to you? I can grill up frozen chicken breasts or frozen fish fillets on the George Foreman in practically no time. And that brings me to #2: "Hunk-o-Meat". I eat a hunk-o-meat every dinner and most lunches. Canned tuna, grilled chicken, baked or broiled fish fillet, roasted turkey breast, sometimes ham, very occasionally beef steak. I never buy hamburger. Ever. If you knew more about hamburger then you wouldn't buy it either. > I mean, there's a lot people saying "healthy" foods are > cheaper than "processed" and whatnot, I'm just curious what everyone > tends to get for their weekly shopping (not a whole big list, mind > you, but just a sample.) I usually buy vegetables for steaming in the winter: I'll make up a big batch of cauliflower, brussel sprouts and broccoli all steamed together and eat it for a few days (lunch and dinner.) I'll eat it after microwaving it to warm it up with leftover "hunk-o-meat". In the warmer weather I tend to prefer salads. I'll buy pre-washed bags of mixed greens, typically a mesclun mix, some baby spinach, and maybe a head of boston lettuce and/or romaine. I make up big salads all at once and eat it for a few days. I spray (spritz) a sesame oil on it and add "Hunk-o-Meat" on top. > I've got a several "regular" items I get > about every week or two, for better or worse. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > cereal (like eating it with yogurt for a snack), a few other cereals > (although often I don't eat "breakfast" so they can sit for awhile.) I don't like breakfast cereals on a calorie 'bang-for-the-buck' basis. How about oatmeal? Even instant oatmeal is better than most cereals. > Ramen noodles (it's a requirement somewhere, if you're in college, you > have to eat them, dunno why... ;) STOP! Ramen noodles are poisonous. Look closely at the label. It's utter crap, and chock full of empty calories. Better to buy a can of chicken minestrone soup. Hell, better to go hungry. Seriously, rethink the ramen sh.t. > bread, cheese slices, packages of > pre-sliced ham (lunchmeat type, can make two sandwiches per packet), Uh oh. Rethink the bread/cheese/spread/fatty-meat concept. No fiber, too much saturated fat, no fruits or veggies... better to ditch the bread and put the lunch meat on a salad. > boxes of mac and cheese (.27 cents a piece), Do you at least add a can of tuna to this, please? (I'm getting tired about typing my thoughts on crappy empty carb calories.) > banquet chicken, bags of > either fries or tater tots (I know, I know, but I oven cook them, as > opposed to frying). NO! No no no no no. Banquet chicken is breaded, greasy, salty, and takes a perfectly good form of protein and makes it bad for you. And that's BEFORE you add the crappy carb/fat combo. This very meal right here would explain most of your obesity. No fiber, no lean protein, no phytonutrients. This is not a meal, this is a personality flaw. > The selection of vegetables (for salads) and fruits isn't the > greatest, so with the exception of bananas, I usually get my lettuce > carrots and other salad stuff elsewhere. How about frozen stir-fry vegetables? Nectarines? Apples? Oranges? Frozen blueberries for protein-shake smoothies? Summer squash or peppers or asparagus or snap peas? Do you EAT fruits and veggies? Can you find brown basmati rice? > Also my beef, I get > somewhere else, for occasional hamburgers (and, less often than not, > spaghetti.) I'm not against pasta, it's just that a half cup serving leaves me still hungry and any more than that is just too high an empty-carb calorie-count for me. Can your calorie count handle it? > I dunno, me personally, I'm not big on spending a lot of time cooking > (I mean, I'm by myself, what's the point?) so trying to find something > that's cheap, quick, and healthy (and actually tastes decent) isn't > the easiest thing to to. HA! I absolutely disagree. You just haven't picked up the habit yet. But you can if you choose to. What sort of kitchen facilities do you have? > So, how about you guys? What constitutes a week shopping for all of > you? Besides fruits, veggies, hunks of meat and brown basmati rice, add to my list oatmeal, peanut butter, Balance bars, lox, low-fat cottage cheese, sugar-free yogurt, wasa rye crisps, maybe a tasty sharp cheddar cheese (I use very little so I like my cheese to be strong flavored.) Dally 244/168/155 >> I dunno, it may sound stupid, but I kind of curious about the shopping >> habits of other people, especially those who are trying to loose [quoted text clipped - 104 lines] > Dally > 244/168/155 Got nothing to add to that one. Well done Dally!  SignatureCheese http://cheesensweets.com/contact/cheese >> I dunno, it may sound stupid, but I kind of curious about the shopping >> habits of other people, especially those who are trying to loose [quoted text clipped - 101 lines] > sugar-free yogurt, wasa rye crisps, maybe a tasty sharp cheddar cheese (I > use very little so I like my cheese to be strong flavored.) Sounds a lot like our weekly shopping except we do buy high fiber bread, whole grain english muffins, whole wheat tortillas, all bran cereal, and whole wheat or spelt pasta. Also, low sodium chicken broth, boca burgers (make a great quick snack), and egg beaters. I also don't do balance bars or any kind of bars anymore right now but I will buy one at the gas station in an emergency. Signaturethe volleyballchick The foods grocries look lke what I buy! I just wanted to ask if most people here count cals??? Mine are very low and I add a 'piece ' of Atkins Bar just to get my choc. fix !! I buy just a couple for my whole week ! These are peonut butter choc. kind. I just can't skip my choc!! I'm below cals each day. But I don't really want/need more food. So please let me know if you count cals. glo > The foods grocries look lke what I buy! > I just wanted to ask if most people here count cals??? Mine are very low [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > I eat basically the same calorie and nutrient levels every day for breakfast, morning snack, lunch and afternoon snack. Therefore, I know exactly how many calories (1600), what nutrients (140gP, 140gC, 20gF) and the timing of those nutrients until 3:30pm. That leaves 500 calories remaining from my 2100 calorie allotment for dinner. I eat sensibly and usually easily stay inside that window. That's counting, right? SignatureCheese http://cheesensweets.com/contact/cheese Fruits fresh and dried vegetables, fresh or frozen Cheese Meat Fish and Poultry honey nuts spring water Goat's milk and plain cow yogurt to make yogurt butter olive oil spices and herbs saccharine wine baking soda for leavening bacon and prosciutto SignatureDiva ****** There is no substitute for the right food > The foods grocries look lke what I buy! > I just wanted to ask if most people here count cals??? Mine are very low [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > But I don't really want/need more food. > So please let me know if you count cals. I count calories and try to keep the mix balanced. Some days I have way more protein than others and some days I have more carbs. I also need a chocolate fix every day so I keep a bag of mini Hershey bars at work and have one with lunch or a couple hours after. I am amazed that I am able to not eat more than I plan to because I pretty much think about chocolate 80 times a day. Hershey's isn't the best but it comes in dark chocolate and I do much better when the portions are controlled. If I bought a bigger bar and decided I'd eat 1/5 of it, I'd end up eating at least 1/2. -- Liz HW/CW/GW 268/165/140 >#1, go buy a George Foreman grill. Do you have a freezer available to >you? I can grill up frozen chicken breasts or frozen fish fillets on >the George Foreman in practically no time. Hmm... okay, something to look into. >And that brings me to #2: "Hunk-o-Meat". I eat a hunk-o-meat every >dinner and most lunches. Canned tuna, grilled chicken, baked or broiled >fish fillet, roasted turkey breast, sometimes ham, very occasionally >beef steak. Hunk o Meat, is that name of the product? > I never buy hamburger. Ever. If you knew more about >hamburger then you wouldn't buy it either. Er.. okay. >I usually buy vegetables for steaming in the winter: I'll make up a big >batch of cauliflower, brussel sprouts and broccoli all steamed together Hmm.. should have added "tastes decent" to that list too... hehe. I dunno, cauliflower, brussel sprouts, broccoli, not really my thing... maybe cause they're bland and tasteless... And not surprisingly, the vegetables I like (carrots corn) might be bad for me as well, it figures.... >I don't like breakfast cereals on a calorie 'bang-for-the-buck' basis. >How about oatmeal? Even instant oatmeal is better than most cereals. Oatmeal, now there's a good thought! Definitely put that on my "to get" list. >> Ramen noodles (it's a requirement somewhere, if you're in college, you >> have to eat them, dunno why... ;) [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >chicken minestrone soup. Hell, better to go hungry. Seriously, rethink >the ramen sh.t. Hmm.. okay, I'll reread the lable... Wouldn't think water and noodles would be that bad... >Uh oh. Rethink the bread/cheese/spread/fatty-meat concept. No fiber, >too much saturated fat, no fruits or veggies... better to ditch the >bread and put the lunch meat on a salad. Hmm.. I guess... prob with salads is they take forever to prepare... get the lettuce, cut up the carrots... but still ... >> boxes of mac and cheese (.27 cents a piece), > >Do you at least add a can of tuna to this, please? (I'm getting tired >about typing my thoughts on crappy empty carb calories.) Hey, tuna's cheap too... I'll have to try it... But yeah, part of the reason I'm posting this is to get some thoughts and feedback here, I mean, I KNOW I'm not making the best choices, but unless I get some others ideas, I'm not going to go anywhere... >NO! No no no no no. Banquet chicken is breaded, greasy, salty, and >takes a perfectly good form of protein and makes it bad for you. And >that's BEFORE you add the crappy carb/fat combo. Notice a trend here, as the taste quoitent increases, the "good for you" quoitent goes down... ;) >This very meal right here would explain most of your obesity. No fiber, >no lean protein, >no phytonutrients. Er.. okay... what are those again? (Been awhile since my Nutrition class.) >> The selection of vegetables (for salads) and fruits isn't the >> greatest, so with the exception of bananas, I usually get my lettuce [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >Frozen blueberries for protein-shake smoothies? Summer squash or >peppers or asparagus or snap peas? Do you EAT fruits and veggies? Fruits, yeah, bannanas, like I said, like plump red apples and LOVE peaches (when they're in season.) Problem with vegetables is I can't really find too many that i enjoy the taste off, especially without adding stuff to them. I mean, like I said corn and carrots are good, and I have lettuce with my salads. Hmm.. do pototo chips counts as a vegetable? (It's a joke, I already know the answer to that question...;) >Can you find brown basmati rice? Er... I dunno, I can try... does that differ much from "regular" brown rice? >I'm not against pasta, it's just that a half cup serving leaves me still >hungry and any more than that is just too high an empty-carb >calorie-count for me. Can your calorie count handle it? Well, like I said, been cutting back on those... spaghetti especially... it tastes good, but yeah, it does take a lot to fill you up, that's been regulated to a "only once every few weeks" meal. >> I dunno, me personally, I'm not big on spending a lot of time cooking >> (I mean, I'm by myself, what's the point?) so trying to find something >> that's cheap, quick, and healthy (and actually tastes decent) isn't >> the easiest thing to to. > >HA! I absolutely disagree. Well, we might disagree on what tastes good though.... ;) > You just haven't picked up the habit yet. >But you can if you choose to. What sort of kitchen facilities do you have? Uh, stove, microwave, some measuring cups, etc. I know HOW to cook, but I just don't do a lot of elaborate stuff. >> So, how about you guys? What constitutes a week shopping for all of >> you? > >Besides fruits, veggies, hunks of meat and brown basmati rice, add to my >list oatmeal, peanut butter, Always thought that was bad.... (except in REAL small dosages.) Speaking of celery, I might be able to eat it if it had PB on it... ;) >Balance bars, lox, low-fat cottage cheese, >sugar-free yogurt, wasa rye crisps, maybe a tasty sharp cheddar cheese >(I use very little so I like my cheese to be strong flavored.) Interesting... You've given a lot ot think about and some good ideas to try. Thanks! __ Need a new limb? Pet recently die? Got a problem you think only magic can solve? Visit Dr Kaidian's Necromancy and Body Transplant Site! http://m-allan.home.mchsi.com/wsb/index.html To respond via email, remove the "54". > I dunno, cauliflower, brussel sprouts, broccoli, not really my > thing... maybe cause they're bland and tasteless... Learn to cook. There's no reason for veggies to be bland and tasteless. > >#1, go buy a George Foreman grill. Do you have a freezer available to > >you? I can grill up frozen chicken breasts or frozen fish fillets on [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > Hunk o Meat, is that name of the product? I think Dally means she has protien at every meal. > > I never buy hamburger. Ever. If you knew more about > >hamburger then you wouldn't buy it either. [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > I dunno, cauliflower, brussel sprouts, broccoli, not really my > thing... maybe cause they're bland and tasteless... You have been preparing them incorrectly. Steamed vegetables are wonderfully crisp and flavorful. Your palate has been dulled by the steady diet of overseasoned, salty snack food. Just as mine was. Now that I'm off the stuff for nearly 3 months, I am tasting the flavor of real food again. Trust me, it's good! > And not surprisingly, the vegetables I like (carrots corn) might be > bad for me as well, it figures.... I don't think they are bad, as part of a good diet. > >I don't like breakfast cereals on a calorie 'bang-for-the-buck' basis. > >How about oatmeal? Even instant oatmeal is better than most cereals. > > Oatmeal, now there's a good thought! Definitely put that on my "to > get" list. Just do it! > >> Ramen noodles (it's a requirement somewhere, if you're in college, you > >> have to eat them, dunno why... ;) [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > Hmm.. okay, I'll reread the lable... Wouldn't think water and noodles > would be that bad... But the flavor package! All that salt! All those chemicals! > >Uh oh. Rethink the bread/cheese/spread/fatty-meat concept. No fiber, > >too much saturated fat, no fruits or veggies... better to ditch the > >bread and put the lunch meat on a salad. > > Hmm.. I guess... prob with salads is they take forever to prepare... > get the lettuce, cut up the carrots... but still ... Then add lots of vegetables to your sandwich. > >> boxes of mac and cheese (.27 cents a piece), > > > >Do you at least add a can of tuna to this, please? (I'm getting tired > >about typing my thoughts on crappy empty carb calories.) > > Hey, tuna's cheap too... I'll have to try it... You can save calories by getting tuna packed in water. Also, Andy has a low-sodium tuna he wants to talk about..... > But yeah, part of the reason I'm posting this is to get some thoughts > and feedback here, I mean, I KNOW I'm not making the best choices, but > unless I get some others ideas, I'm not going to go anywhere... I'm glad you asked the question, as I am learning from Dally's post as well. > >NO! No no no no no. Banquet chicken is breaded, greasy, salty, and > >takes a perfectly good form of protein and makes it bad for you. And > >that's BEFORE you add the crappy carb/fat combo. > > Notice a trend here, as the taste quoitent increases, the "good for > you" quoitent goes down... ;) It's a case of re-educating your palate. Once you are weaned from the greasy, salt-laden food you have been eating, you will never want to go back. And if you do go back, it will only be for a short visit to remind yourself why you left. > >This very meal right here would explain most of your obesity. No fiber, > >no lean protein, [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > Problem with vegetables is I can't really find too many that i enjoy > the taste off, especially without adding stuff to them. I'm trembling with fear; what "stuff" do you add? Please don't say a heavy cheese sauce! I mean, like > I said corn and carrots are good, and I have lettuce with my salads. > > Hmm.. do pototo chips counts as a vegetable? (It's a joke, I already > know the answer to that question...;) Only if served with catsup. :-) > >Can you find brown basmati rice? > [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > especially... it tastes good, but yeah, it does take a lot to fill you > up, that's been regulated to a "only once every few weeks" meal. Good for you. BTW, Mike, do you have a rough idea of the calories you are consuming and how much you should be consuming? I was only 30 pounds less than you at my peak, and I was probaly consuming 3500-4000 a day. I'm now averaging about 2400 a day at 345 pounds. 2400 calories is a lot of food if you play your carbs, err, cards correctly, and you probably can include pasta in your diet and stay near your limit. > >> I dunno, me personally, I'm not big on spending a lot of time cooking > >> (I mean, I'm by myself, what's the point?) so trying to find something > >> that's cheap, quick, and healthy (and actually tastes decent) isn't > >> the easiest thing to to. > > > >HA! I absolutely disagree. That's two of us. > Well, we might disagree on what tastes good though.... ;) > [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > Always thought that was bad.... (except in REAL small dosages.) I'm also a little surprised at that one. I'm not sure I'd call peanut butter "bad", but it is high in calories and fat. Dally, enlighten me! > Speaking of celery, I might be able to eat it if it had PB on it... ;) > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > You've given a lot ot think about and some good ideas to try. Thanks! Thanks from me as well, Dally. Neil 385/345/200 >> >#1, go buy a George Foreman grill. Do you have a freezer available >> >to you? I can grill up frozen chicken breasts or frozen fish [quoted text clipped - 195 lines] > Neil > 385/345/200 Neil, This post was a great read. Thanks! The Bumble Bee low sodium albacore only has 25 mg sodium per 2oz serving, a 100% reduction (250mg) if the regular albacore tuna. Yep. It takes a microscope to read the nutrition labels and serving sizes, in my case but what a find! Take the 2oz. and a slice of tomato on romaine. Maybe gamble with a no-fat miracle-whipe-free salad dressing and it's darn tasty! TJ's garlic hummus dip is even lower in sodium and adds more flavor. Also don't forget the pepper! :) Andy >You have been preparing them incorrectly. Steamed vegetables are >wonderfully crisp and flavorful. Your palate has been dulled by the >steady diet of overseasoned, salty snack food. Just as mine was. Now >that I'm off the stuff for nearly 3 months, I am tasting the flavor of >real food again. Trust me, it's good! Uh.. I don't know.. having my doubts here... even steamed I never really got into those vegetables... >> And not surprisingly, the vegetables I like (carrots corn) might be >> bad for me as well, it figures.... > >I don't think they are bad, as part of a good diet. Well, been hearing corn in particular is "too much stratch" >> Hmm.. okay, I'll reread the lable... Wouldn't think water and noodles >> would be that bad... > >But the flavor package! All that salt! All those chemicals! Noticing a trend among a lot of the foods that are quick and easy to fix.... >> Hmm.. I guess... prob with salads is they take forever to prepare... >> get the lettuce, cut up the carrots... but still ... > >Then add lots of vegetables to your sandwich. Again, back to taste... I mean, don't really care for onions and tomatos either, so what really can you put on a sandwhich (besides lettuce and pickles) that qualify and vegetables? >> Notice a trend here, as the taste quoitent increases, the "good for >> you" quoitent goes down... ;) [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >back. And if you do go back, it will only be for a short visit to >remind yourself why you left. I don' t know... I want to believe, but like so many other things, they seem like the "far down the road" after you've done this for awhile" type stuff.... like along with "exercise gives you more energy" thing... When, I ask? When? (sighs) >> Problem with vegetables is I can't really find too many that i enjoy >> the taste off, especially without adding stuff to them. > >I'm trembling with fear; what "stuff" do you add? Please don't say a >heavy cheese sauce! Well, yeah, that could be it... like I said, I'm just not a cauliflower, broccoli, mushroom, onion, green pepper person... >> Well, like I said, been cutting back on those... spaghetti >> especially... it tastes good, but yeah, it does take a lot to fill you >> up, that's been regulated to a "only once every few weeks" meal. > >Good for you. BTW, Mike, do you have a rough idea of the calories you >are consuming and how much you should be consuming? No clue, really, I don't count stuff like that... been trying to focus more on cutting back the "extras" and exercising more... been having some trouble of late though (see my thread needing encouragement.) >> >> I dunno, me personally, I'm not big on spending a lot of time cooking >> >> (I mean, I'm by myself, what's the point?) so trying to find something [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > >That's two of us. Well, again, everyone says that, then they turn around tell me "learn how to cook" in order ot make these vegetables paletiable. __ Need a new limb? Pet recently die? Got a problem you think only magic can solve? Visit Dr Kaidian's Necromancy and Body Transplant Site! http://m-allan.home.mchsi.com/wsb/index.html To respond via email, remove the "54". >>>Problem with vegetables is I can't really find too many that i enjoy >>>the taste off, especially without adding stuff to them. [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > Well, yeah, that could be it... like I said, I'm just not a > cauliflower, broccoli, mushroom, onion, green pepper person... You're right. You're a fat person. If you want to change then you're going to have to change. Luckily, starting to prepare and enjoy healthier foods is within your abillities to do. Do you want to change? Dally >>>> Problem with vegetables is I can't really find too many that i enjoy >>>> the taste off, especially without adding stuff to them. [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > If you want to change then you're going to have to change. That's not necessary. > Luckily, starting to prepare and enjoy healthier foods is within your > abillities to do. > > Do you want to change? It's not necessary or even desirable to change what you eat. The best diet is the one that tastes so good you want to eat it. That tells you what to do: eat the foods you love the best, and don't eat things you find less good. If you dislike things like pasta or white bread, or low fat bran muffins, don't eat them. It will cut out lots of calories! If you like broccoli with cheese sauce, eat that. The only thing to worry about is getting enough vitamins (eat a vitamin pill!) and protein (eat steak or sushi). Protein is important because you don't want to lose muscle, ideally you want to gain at least a little. Just eat only enough to support your weight, and do enough exercise (which is a lot) to lose weight. This works. Doug McDonald > Again, back to taste... I mean, don't really care for onions and > tomatos either, so what really can you put on a sandwhich (besides > lettuce and pickles) that qualify and vegetables? Peppers or cucumbers? Both work well on sandwiches. Peppers can be raw or roasted. What about sundried tomatoes if you don't like regular ones? >>> Problem with vegetables is I can't really find too many that i enjoy >>> the taste off, especially without adding stuff to them. [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > Well, yeah, that could be it... like I said, I'm just not a > cauliflower, broccoli, mushroom, onion, green pepper person... I admit that I usually add some salt to my veggies. And, I also only like a limited number of vegetables but I have them every day. I think I've had broccoli and carrots in some form every day for months and months. I steam my broccoli and add a little salt. Sometimes I give it a quick spray of one of those butter flavored sprays. If I don't feel like making a whole salad or don't have many ingredients on hand, I just slice a cucmber and have that with some low fat or fat free dressing. Baby carrots are great on their own or with some kind of dressing or hummus to dip them in. Ditto for celery. I like those bags of frozen mixed chinese vegetables. >>Good for you. BTW, Mike, do you have a rough idea of the calories you >>are consuming and how much you should be consuming? > > No clue, really, I don't count stuff like that... been trying to focus > more on cutting back the "extras" and exercising more... been having > some trouble of late though (see my thread needing encouragement.) You should really try to keep a food diary, even if only for a couple of days. You'd be amazed at much you can eat in a day when you think you're not eating much. You said you're cutting back on the "extras" - do you mean little snacks during the day or just extra stuff you'd normally have as part of a meal? >>> >> I dunno, me personally, I'm not big on spending a lot of time cooking >>> >> (I mean, I'm by myself, what's the point?) so trying to find [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > Well, again, everyone says that, then they turn around tell me "learn > how to cook" in order ot make these vegetables paletiable. I'm also living alone and don't really know how to cook. Everything I eat has to be very simple or from an idiot-proof recipe. Last week I made a big pot of turkey chili using 99% fat free ground turkey. I was amazed at how good it came out, because there were no fancy cooking methods or exotic ingredients. Money is another issue. I can't afford to buy 6 different types of fresh herbs and vegetables plus 4 kinds of dried spices to make one meal. That's why I look for the simplest recipes that use stuff I already have on hand. SignatureLiz HW/CW/GW 268/165/140 >> No clue, really, I don't count stuff like that... been trying to focus >> more on cutting back the "extras" and exercising more... been having [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] >little snacks during the day or just extra stuff you'd normally have as part >of a meal? I mean snacks in general. I used to have a habit of when I'd be out and about and I'd get hungry I'd go to Wal-Mart and buy a dollar bag of chips or cheese crackers or something and munch on them (usually in one sitting.) Or I'd stop a fast food place and buy something cheap. Or often I'd buy a bag of something or other and eat it late in the evening after dinner for a snack. Now I try only to buy stuff like that once a week (if at all). The rest of the time if I'm hungry I try and snack on healthier stuff and, more important, eat something before I go out and about so I'm not hungry during the middle of the day. I'm pretty sure cutting back on the bags of empty calorie stuff is a major fat saver... :) >I'm also living alone and don't really know how to cook. Everything I eat >has to be very simple or from an idiot-proof recipe. Last week I made a big [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >meal. That's why I look for the simplest recipes that use stuff I already >have on hand. Cool, maybe we should trade recipes (that is, if I had any right now.. hehe.) __ Need a new limb? Pet recently die? Got a problem you think only magic can solve? Visit Dr Kaidian's Necromancy and Body Transplant Site! http://m-allan.home.mchsi.com/wsb/index.html To respond via email, remove the "54". > >You have been preparing them incorrectly. Steamed vegetables are > >wonderfully crisp and flavorful. Your palate has been dulled by the [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > Uh.. I don't know.. having my doubts here... even steamed I never > really got into those vegetables... Quit talking about the past. You are trying to be a different man than you were. > >> And not surprisingly, the vegetables I like (carrots corn) might be > >> bad for me as well, it figures.... > > > >I don't think they are bad, as part of a good diet. > > Well, been hearing corn in particular is "too much stratch" How much of it do you eat? Unless you are doing a low-carb diet, I don't see how including some corn or carrots in your diet will harm you. Also, remember, you are 400 pounds. Debating the carbs in a serving of corn strikes me as a minor matter at your size. You can finese things as you start losing. > >> Hmm.. okay, I'll reread the lable... Wouldn't think water and noodles > >> would be that bad... [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > Noticing a trend among a lot of the foods that are quick and easy to > fix.... A lot of *processed* foods that are quick and easy to fix. > >> Hmm.. I guess... prob with salads is they take forever to prepare... > >> get the lettuce, cut up the carrots... but still ... [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > tomatos either, so what really can you put on a sandwhich (besides > lettuce and pickles) that qualify and vegetables? Whatever you like. I thought the youth of today was supposed to be adventurous. (Pardon me for slipping into old man mode; I just turned 40 this year.) > >> Notice a trend here, as the taste quoitent increases, the "good for > >> you" quoitent goes down... ;) [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > I want to believe, but like so many other things, they seem like the > "far down the road" after you've done this for awhile" type stuff.... Mike, you have to give it time. It took 20 some years for you to become 400 pounds, and it won't disappear overnight. If you are going to try dietary changes, and I think everyone here is suggesting you should, you have to give them some time. If you need to, start small. Cut one or two items at a time. Work healthy food into your diet replacing unhealthy food. > like along with "exercise gives you more energy" thing... When, I > ask? When? The 'exercise and more energy' I'm sure happens, when you are not the size you are, or the size I am. I've now lost 43 pounds, but I am still carrying around 142 extra pounds - probably Dally's weight. :-) So the extra energy will probably come later. But after three months of exercise and diet: - I am 43 pounds lighter; - my clothes fit better, since I've gone from a 58 to 54 waist; - my self-confidence and self-esteem have gone through the roof; - my posture has improved a little; - I have much less knee pain than I did previously. - and perhaps I have a little more energy after all. I have a long way to go, and it will NOT be easy, but I know I can do it. And you know what Mike? You can do it too. And you ARE doing it. I think everyone on this newsgroup wants to see you succeed. > (sighs) > [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > Well, yeah, that could be it... like I said, I'm just not a > cauliflower, broccoli, mushroom, onion, green pepper person... You can become one, Mike. > >> Well, like I said, been cutting back on those... spaghetti > >> especially... it tastes good, but yeah, it does take a lot to fill you [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > more on cutting back the "extras" and exercising more... been having > some trouble of late though (see my thread needing encouragement.) That's a start, but I think that you need to count calories, and make your calories count. Thinking you are dieting by "cutting back on extras" isn't dieting, its self-delusion. Take it from me, a man who drank diet beverages by the liter while shoveling 4000 calories down his throat. > >> >> I dunno, me personally, I'm not big on spending a lot of time cooking > >> >> (I mean, I'm by myself, what's the point?) so trying to find something [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > Well, again, everyone says that, then they turn around tell me "learn > how to cook" in order ot make these vegetables paletiable. Dally's suggestion of stir-fry sounds like a good one. Try it. Neil 385/342/200 OT: shameless self promotion: http://correspondencechess.com/campbell/articles/a060315.htm > I dunno, cauliflower, brussel sprouts, broccoli, not really my > thing... maybe cause they're bland and tasteless... There are several ways to spice up the taste of these vegetables. Add some balsamic vinegar, sprinkle with lemon juice, etc. I sprinkle Mrs. Dash's seasonings on mine while they steam. Many vegetables have a bland taste and need some type of seasoning. Experiment and find the ones you prefer. >>I dunno, cauliflower, brussel sprouts, broccoli, not really my >>thing... maybe cause they're bland and tasteless... [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > Many vegetables have a bland taste and need some type of seasoning. > Experiment and find the ones you prefer. There's a spray butter in the refrigerated section, a yellow bottle called 'I can't believe it's not butter' that my kids like to spray on steamed vegetables. They also sprinkle grated cheese over them. Personally, I eat them plain, but I think you could ease yourself into that. Another way we prepare vegetables is to brush or spray olive oil onto them. (I've got an oil spritzer that is great for this.) We then grate some sea salt onto them and broil them in the oven broiler. The kids think asparagus is like french fries when I do this. Yes, there are calories in the olive oil, but not as many as if they were fried, and it's good fat. Stir-frying is another way to make vegetables more palatable. Usually we use some sort of marinating sauce or soy sauce/sesame oil combination. Again, it's not zero calories, but the idea is to eat a range of nutritious foods. Someone asked what a phytonutrient is. It's the vitamins. When you go to extract vitamins from food and put them in pills you always lose something. No one is entirely sure why broccoli is so good for you, but it seems to be the combination: plant fiber and broccoli-vitamins working together. Vitamins don't replace it. To be truly nourished you've got to eat nourishing food. An excellent magazine is the Nutrition Action Newsletter published by Center for Science in the Public Interest. I've been getting (and reading!) this newsletter for about 15 years. I jokingly call it my "parenting" magazine (which I kept long after I let the other subscriptions lapse.) Find it online at http://www.cspinet.org/ Dally 244/168/155 >>#1, go buy a George Foreman grill. Do you have a freezer available to >>you? I can grill up frozen chicken breasts or frozen fish fillets on [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > Hunk o Meat, is that name of the product? No, it refers to my measurement of portions. A protein serving is roughly the size of the palm of my hand. A carb serving is roughly the size of my closed fist. Close your fist. That's how big your pile of pasta ought to be. You ought to have two fistfuls of vegetables/salad with your meal. Another way to look at this is to divide a luncheon plate into four quarters: put protein in one quarter, pasta/bread/rice/potato in another quarter, and fill the other half with vegetables. The specific protein isn't terribly important: it could be low-fat cottage cheese or a mess of scrambled eggs. The idea is that every meal has its hunk. >>I never buy hamburger. Ever. If you knew more about >>hamburger then you wouldn't buy it either. > > Er.. okay. Google for "Fast Food Nation" by Eric Schlosser. Now google for "e. coli outbreak" and "mad cow disease". Hamburger reminds me of the drugs in the movie "Traffic": you think it isn't harming anyone but it's really killing people you don't know on its way to your plate... where it stands a chance of killing you, too. >>>Ramen noodles (it's a requirement somewhere, if you're in college, you >>>have to eat them, dunno why... ;) [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > Hmm.. okay, I'll reread the lable... Wouldn't think water and noodles > would be that bad... One package is TWO servings and contains around 400 calories, 13g of fat, most of which is saturated, and about 1700 (seventeen HUNDRED) mg of sodium. Here's a link: http://www.nutritiondata.com/facts-B00001-01c224h.html >>Uh oh. Rethink the bread/cheese/spread/fatty-meat concept. No fiber, >>too much saturated fat, no fruits or veggies... better to ditch the >>bread and put the lunch meat on a salad. > > Hmm.. I guess... prob with salads is they take forever to prepare... > get the lettuce, cut up the carrots... but still ... Seriously? I buy pre-washed bags of salad. Preparing a salad means grabbing a fistful from the bowl I emptied the bag into. I bought a Rubbermaid "salad keeper" bowl that has a little grate at the bottom to keep salads from getting waterlogged. An easy way to add stuff on top is to stop by the salad bar section of your grocery store and bring home a tin foil container of grated carrot, diced up broccoli & cucumbers, etc. Be careful with the fatty toppings like cheese & bacon bits, but experiment with things like chickpeas and edamame (yum!). >>NO! No no no no no. Banquet chicken is breaded, greasy, salty, and >>takes a perfectly good form of protein and makes it bad for you. And >>that's BEFORE you add the crappy carb/fat combo. > > Notice a trend here, as the taste quoitent increases, the "good for > you" quoitent goes down... ;) The reason food manufacturers add grease and salt to foods is because people like grease and salt and will buy them again to get that mouth feel. Mouth feel. Think about this. Are you eating because of the fun it is to have it in your mouth? Is this about the entertainment factor? Because if it is, isn't there something that would be more entertaining than greasy salty chicken? I'm not against using your mouth for entertainment purposes, but bear in mind that the rest of your body is going to have to pay for the pleasure, so you probably want to limit those occasions for when it's really worth it. (My daughter baked a cheesecake last night that no part of my body should interact with, but it was WORTH it for my mouth!) I guess what I'm saying is that most of your meals should be designed to provide appropriate fuel for your body within the calorie budgets you've set. If you don't yet appreciate that sort of food, allow yourself cheat meals once a week or so. But don't pretend that they're appropriate fuel for your body. > Fruits, yeah, bannanas, like I said, like plump red apples and LOVE > peaches (when they're in season.) I find that I can eat out-of-season fruit if I slice it up and put it on things. Dicing peaches (even hard ones) onto oatmeal, or slicing a mango into some cottage cheese. I eat a fair amount of frozen fruit blended with skim milk and chocolate protein powder (and usually half a banana.) > Problem with vegetables is I can't really find too many that i enjoy > the taste off, especially without adding stuff to them. I mean, like > I said corn and carrots are good, and I have lettuce with my salads. In another post I mention what my kids call "spray buddy", i.e., spray butter. We buy the brand "I can't believe it's not butter." It might be a sufficient crutch for you. I spritz healthy fats onto foods from time to time, including sesame oil & olive oil. >>Can you find brown basmati rice? > > Er... I dunno, I can try... does that differ much from "regular" brown > rice? I like it much better. It cooks faster, it tastes nuttier, and is less densely chewy. >>>I dunno, me personally, I'm not big on spending a lot of time cooking >>>(I mean, I'm by myself, what's the point?) so trying to find something [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > Well, we might disagree on what tastes good though.... ;) Point taken. But there's a two-pronged attack you could follow: work on getting used to foods you didn't use to eat, and work on finding ways to make the foods you DO currently like more nutritious. Perhaps that means eating open-faced sandwiches with a side of veggies in place of that second piece of bread. Perhaps it means George-Foremaning chicken while still eating the *shudder* oven-puff-potatoes. You can ease into this. >>You just haven't picked up the habit yet. >>But you can if you choose to. What sort of kitchen facilities do you have? > > Uh, stove, microwave, some measuring cups, etc. I know HOW to cook, > but I just don't do a lot of elaborate stuff. Do you have a broiler on the oven? How about a freezer? (I wasn't sure if you've got a dorm-sized fridge, for example.) >>Besides fruits, veggies, hunks of meat and brown basmati rice, add to my >>list oatmeal, peanut butter, > > Always thought that was bad.... (except in REAL small dosages.) I eat it in small doses. My way of eating involves getting some lean protein, healthy fats and high-fiber carbs in every meal or snack. A bit of peanutbutter adds some protein and healthy fats to a fruit or veggie snack and leaves me feeling more sated than if I'd just eaten a carb alone. For example, I'll dip a knife into the natural peanutbutter (well, I stir it first) and scrape the knife along a bowl and use that tablespoon or so of peanutbutter to dip apple slices into. Celery sticks would work, too. The trick here is to serve out your portion and put away the jar. I put peanutbutter in my morning oatmeal sometimes (or else I'll put protein powder and ground flaxseed, I alternate.) The same is true for almond butter or cashew butter. It's flavorful in stir fries, too. > Speaking of celery, I might be able to eat it if it had PB on it... ;) Try it. A two-hundred calorie snack involving celery and peanutbutter is a perfectly fine way to fuel your body. > You've given a lot ot think about and some good ideas to try. Thanks! You're welcome. Progress, not perfection. Take what you can, save the rest for another day. Dally hamburger is a blend of many animals 1000's...the burger chains demand standards for hamburger that are higher than what is found in the store...we get what is not fit for mcdonalds...that's scary > >#1, go buy a George Foreman grill. Do you have a freezer available to > >you? I can grill up frozen chicken breasts or frozen fish fillets on [quoted text clipped - 149 lines] > > To respond via email, remove the "54". > hamburger is a blend of many animals 1000's...the burger chains demand > standards for hamburger that are higher than what is found in the > store...we get what is not fit for mcdonalds...that's scary I haven't bought hamburger for quite sometime but do buy some beef at a local market. They raise and butcher on-site. If you can find something similar in your area you're probably be more satisfied with the quality and safety. The farm where I purchase also raises pork and poultry. The difference in taste between their products and those available in the supermarkets is unbelievable. Beverly http://www.ohiosignature.com/whoWeAre.asp >> hamburger is a blend of many animals 1000's...the burger chains >> demand standards for hamburger that are higher than what is found in [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > http://www.ohiosignature.com/whoWeAre.asp I used a kitchen-aid stand mixer with the grinder attachment to grind rib- eye or sirloin into burgers. You can cook a rare burger without fear of ecoli (or so I was told!). I should turn to turkey breast and grind that. Just gotta get over 405mg. sodium per 1 oz frozen turkey breast. That and what to add to the grind for moisture... minced onion? The store bought turkey burgs are overly dry when I cooked 'em, ages ago! Andy >>> hamburger is a blend of many animals 1000's...the burger chains >>> demand standards for hamburger that are higher than what is found in [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] > > Andy I'm a big fan of ground turkey but I'd suggest using it in recipes other than turkey burgers. Ground turkey has a mild flavor. That's a benefit when using it in well seasoned recipes like tacos, enchiladas, burritos, white chili, meatballs, etc. but when it comes to burgers or meat loaf you might be disappointed. I say that because I usually season beef with a pepper blend, salt and garlic only to enhance the flavor. Enhancing a turkey burger in the same manner doesn't work. Instead you'll need to add ingredients and spices strong enough to actually add a flavor to the burger and the mild turkey flavor will be overcome. Usually the ground turkey becomes a consistency rather than a flavor. I find there no substitute for lean ground beef in burgers. Medium rare on a whole wheat bun. Yummy! SignatureCheese http://cheesensweets.com/contact/cheese > >>> hamburger is a blend of many animals 1000's...the burger chains > >>> demand standards for hamburger that are higher than what is found in [quoted text clipped - 41 lines] > > http://cheesensweets.com/contact/cheese I recently purchased some ground turkey burgers at Trader Joe's that were seasoned with Italian spices. My daughter and I loved them. I'm going to experiment with spices at home to see if I can come close to the TJ's taste. Beverly > > >>> hamburger is a blend of many animals 1000's...the burger chains > > >>> demand standards for hamburger that are higher than what is found in [quoted text clipped - 48 lines] > > Beverly I never tasted a turkey burger....My daughter and I were in Atlantic City and she ordered one. They are good....but she said they are really not that low in calories. Maybe she meant the ones they serve at the casino. I could not see how they could be that low in calories unless you eat it from a plate and not on a roll. Or is it? > I never tasted a turkey burger....My daughter and I were in Atlantic > City and she ordered one. They are good....but she said they are > really not that low in calories. Maybe she meant the ones they serve > at the casino. I could not see how they could be that low in calories > unless you eat it from a plate and not on a roll. Or is it? It would depend on the turkey burger--whether or not it was ground with the skin and fat of the turkey, whether it is all breast meat or contains dark meat, etc. And, if you had a turkey burger out, then also did it contain fatty condiments or cheese? What kind of roll, etc. If you choose to purchase ground turkey or preformed/frozen turkey patties, just check the label for calorie/fat content. Amy > I dunno, it may sound stupid, but I kind of curious about the shopping > habits of other people, especially those who are trying to loose > weight. I mean, there's a lot people saying "healthy" foods are > cheaper than "processed" and whatnot, I'm just curious what everyone > tends to get for their weekly shopping (not a whole big list, mind > you, but just a sample.) Pretty much every single week I buy: broccoli - fresh, plus frozen for when I run out and can't get to the store in time baby carrots skim milk skinless, boneless chicken breast some frozen dinners (Lean Cuisine, Healthy Choice) fresh fruit (bananas, apples & strawberries mostly) I buy other stuff as needed. I live alone, so I don't have to buy a huge amount of food at a time. I also pick up stuff by work a couple of times during the week, since the extremely lame store in my neighborhood closes early. I don't drive, and getting to the big supermarket farther away is a pain at night. Stuff I buy on a regular basis but not every week include: eggs Egg Beaters Thomas' Multigrain Light English Muffins (these things RULE, and are perfect for making breakfast sandwiches) Laughing Cow Light cheese wedges chicken sausages, veggie sausage patties (see above for breakfast sandwiches) sugar free Jell-o reduced fat cream cheese cottage cheese bread, mostly wholegrain/wheat low fat or fat free mayo -- Liz I live alone so it's easy to plan my meals and my shopping. What usually buy every week is: Tomatoes, cucumbers, celery, carrots, peas Apples, oranges, bananas Eggs Low-fat chocolate milk All-Bran Cereals Skinless, boneless chicken breasts Frozen dinners Yogurt Rye brea -- Gardenia Salad (Tomatoes, cucumbers, carrots and lettuce) Fruit (Bananas) Vegetables (broccoli, corn, peas and green beans) Sides (Brown rice and whole wheat pasta) Dairy (Soy milk and cottage cheese) Breads (Wraps and whole grain bread) Meats (Steak, pork, chicken and ground turkey) Seafood (Ahi Tuna, Salmon, Sea bass, Talapia and swordfish) SignatureCheese http://cheesensweets.com/contact/cheese I buy bread, potato chips, milk, vegetables and meat, various cooked foods like HotPockets and pizza, etc. Of that list, I eat only vegs and meat. i > I dunno, it may sound stupid, but I kind of curious about the shopping > habits of other people, especially those who are trying to loose [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > > To respond via email, remove the "54". I stock up on staples once a month or so, and check the flyers for the local shops every week. Sometimes I hit one or two stores, sometimes I hit 'em all--depends on what's on sale, what I need, and if I'm in the mood. My weekly shopping is usually for milk, bread, cottage cheese, yogurt, tuna, salad greens, fresh vegies, fresh fruit, and whatever meat is on sale (I buy in bulk and freeze). Staple shopping is for flour, sugar, baking stuff (if needed), pasta, rice, canned vegies, beans, and soups, frozen vegies and berries, waffles, eggs, cheeses, potatoes, onions, raisins, oatmeal, pasta sauce, condiments, juice, peanut butter, dressings, and frozen convenience stuff like turkey meatballs, sausage, and cooked shrimp. Dinners are cooked from scratch, usually with planned leftovers for lunches. I think we save quite a bit by planning dinner menus in advance and shopping accordingly. And while the food is "healthy" it's still "normal," so when we have dinner guests (stray adults and kid's friends several times a week) they're none the wiser. Amy i like aldi's...frozen vegetables and frozen fruit is great for the price...canned is good too...you can drain and rinse with tap water to get most of the salt out...i like the frozen pizza for $1.99...peanut butter and jelly > I dunno, it may sound stupid, but I kind of curious about the shopping > habits of other people, especially those who are trying to loose [quoted text clipped - 48 lines] > > To respond via email, remove the "54". >I dunno, it may sound stupid, but I kind of curious about the shopping >habits of other people, especially those who are trying to loose >weight. I mean, there's a lot people saying "healthy" foods are >cheaper than "processed" and whatnot, I'm just curious what everyone >tends to get for their weekly shopping (not a whole big list, mind >you, but just a sample.) We're semi-retired, so we usually hit the grocery store a couple times a week. Here's what I buy: Eggs (the special Omega 3 ones) Assorted cheese Half & Half coffee cream Yogurt (medium fat) Meat (Chicken breasts, pork chops or tenderloin, steak, ham, bacon) Nuts - plain almonds and pistachios Salad stuff (Romaine lettuce, spinach, peppers, celery, tomatoes, avocado, bean sprouts) Other veggies (carrots, parsnips, onions, squash, broccoli, cauliflower, cabbage, bok choi, asparagus green beans, brussels sprouts, etc) Fruit, occasionally (bananas, apples, grapefruit) Bread and crackers (for the DH - I get the healthiest looking whole wheat stuff I can find) EVOO and grapeseed oil Miracle Whip Cheese Whiz Cream cheese I eat low-carb, and manage to stick pretty well to good stuff. DH doesn't have any weight issues, but he gets along well without any of the rice, pasta, and potatoes. I buy a lot of fresh, whole foods. Fruits - apples, oranges and bananas in the winter and when the farm market opens will also get plums, melon and pears, peaches and berries in season. For vegetables - broccoli every week - onions always on hand - get 5# bags when I run low - salad mix, brussel sprouts (yes I like them), cabbage, sweet potatoes, oriental cabbages (bok choy, pac choi), celery. Always have garlic on hand. If cauliflower would drop in price, would have it every week - but at $3.99 a medium size head - haven't had any this winter. Occasionally I will get parsnips but I prefer them with lots of butter so not often. Peppers - green and red - mushrooms - spinach when available. Thats all for the fresh fruits and veggies. I usually by pass the deli but once a month will get half a pounf of sliced turkey for use in salads. And the cheese counter near the deli - get humus and feta in the small packages - use them to stuff the celery for evening snacks. The meat counter - chicken thighs or breasts - fresh fish when available and looking decent - ground turkey - occasionally a pork chop. I don't eat beef so that selection is not a consideration. I get seltzer in the 2 liter bottles and the drink box 10 packs of orange juice. A bit of juice with the seltzer satisfies my urge for carbonated drinks. Frozen fruit and occasional frozen fish (Gorton's grilled). Occasionally veggie burgers. Soy milk, yogurt, Smart Balance spread, occasionally shredded cheese. Rolled oats - the long cooking type - brown rice - dry beans. Occasionally aan 'adult' dry cereal (little or no sugar added). Olive oil, white vinegar and Good Seasons dry salad dressing. Noodles and angel hair pasta, Classico pasta sauce, mustard - occasionally ketchup. Greated parmesan cheese. Canned tuna, chicken and salmon. I do have a good stock of canned vegetables for when I run out of fresh but generally wait until they are on sale to stock up. Canned tomatoes are about the only ones I use regularly. And cat food - for my 'wild bunch' of outside felines. I'm sure I've forgotten something but those are the basics of what I look for. My cart is usually mostly fresh fruits and veggies. Jan Learn something new every day As long as you are learning, you are living When you stop learning, you start dying > I dunno, it may sound stupid, but I kind of curious about the shopping > habits of other people, especially those who are trying to loose [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > a "eat it for one meal" and it's gone stuff, but you know, you can't > always do that. Dally's post was excellent, but I'll add my comments below. > Let's see.. regulars, dry milk (gotten to where I can mix it just > right and, after being chilled) it tastes just as good. Low or nonfat, correct? Granola > cereal (like eating it with yogurt for a snack), a few other cereals > (although often I don't eat "breakfast" so they can sit for awhile.) Try oatmeal instead. > Ramen noodles (it's a requirement somewhere, if you're in college, you > have to eat them, dunno why... ;) Yuck! All that salt. bread, cheese slices, packages of > pre-sliced ham (lunchmeat type, can make two sandwiches per packet), Not bad in itself, but if you must have sandwiches, turkey would be a better choice. Also, consider eliminating the cheese. > boxes of mac and cheese (.27 cents a piece), I hope you are adding something of substance to this. Tuna, chicken, turkey, salmon, etc. > banquet chicken, bags of > either fries or tater tots (I know, I know, but I oven cook them, as > opposed to frying). This is the sort of sloppy thinking fat people delight in. "I don't fry, so I must be eating well!" I've been there many a time. > The selection of vegetables (for salads) and fruits isn't the > greatest, so with the exception of bananas, I usually get my lettuce [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > that's cheap, quick, and healthy (and actually tastes decent) isn't > the easiest thing to to. It's not that difficult, actually. It just takes a bit of planning. Neil 385/345/200 I don't shop just at one place, I go to a variety of stores. I visit Trader Joe's, where I can find a variety of products. The boxes of energy bars are I like are cheaper there. As well as a lot of canned products and lots of other items. Fatfree, refried black beans rule! I love the free range chicken and the Neiman Ranch meat. I also shop at a health food store in town where I can get lots of stuff in bulk without it costing as much as Whole Paycheck (aka: Whole Foods). And, there's a couple produce shops near me I like as well as the various Farmers' Markets around town. Martha wow, i could never lose weight buying the stuff that you do. granola? fattening! banquet chicken? super fattening. i buy whole grain bread, turkey, stuff to make salads, soups and frozen chicken breasts for the most part. > I dunno, it may sound stupid, but I kind of curious about the shopping > habits of other people, especially those who are trying to loose [quoted text clipped - 48 lines] > > To respond via email, remove the "54". > wow, i could never lose weight buying the stuff that you do. granola? > fattening! banquet chicken? super fattening. Granola bars are fattening? I eat granola bars all the time. What is better to buy...in a bar??? The diet bars are so darn expensive. > > wow, i could never lose weight buying the stuff that you do. granola? > > fattening! banquet chicken? super fattening. > > Granola bars are fattening? I eat granola bars all the time. What is > better to buy...in a bar??? An extra dry vodka Martini straight up with a couple of olives. SignatureDiva ***** The Best Man For The Job Is A Woman > > > wow, i could never lose weight buying the stuff that you do. granola? > > > fattening! banquet chicken? super fattening. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > An extra dry vodka Martini straight up with a couple of olives. I only drink cosmopolitans....1 martini and I am wasted....I can drink 3 cosmos. ;-) Can't figure it out. >>>> wow, i could never lose weight buying the stuff that you do. granola? >>>> fattening! banquet chicken? super fattening. [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > I only drink cosmopolitans....1 martini and I am wasted....I can drink > 3 cosmos. ;-) Can't figure it out. Sounds like somebody is putting more than a splash of cranberry juice in your cosmos if it's a 3:1 difference. SignatureCheese http://cheesensweets.com/contact/cheese > >>>> wow, i could never lose weight buying the stuff that you do. granola? > >>>> fattening! banquet chicken? super fattening. [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > your cosmos if it's a 3:1 difference. > -- I can't figure it out either...maybe its the combination of two types of alcohol that I can't take in a martini. I really do better with a vodka martini....Maybe I can't drink Gin. I don't know. But with a cosmo most people use 1 ounce of Vodka 1 ounce of cranberry juice and a half an ounce of tripe sec. Some bars add sugar. You can play around with the strength of a cosmo.....not a martini....unless you get a dirty martini and put alot of olive juice in it. ;-) >>>>>> wow, i could never lose weight buying the stuff that you do. granola? >>>>>> fattening! banquet chicken? super fattening. [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > with the strength of a cosmo.....not a martini....unless you get a > dirty martini and put alot of olive juice in it. ;-) I wouldn't count the Triple Sec since your original martini is probably cut with Vermouth. My choice is vodka over gin too. Although, I'm also into all that new tootie fruity stuff that's being served up at the martini bars so maybe my opinion's worthless to the "real" martini drinkers. SignatureCheese http://cheesensweets.com/contact/cheese >>>>> In article >>>>> <1142877771.090776.123140@e56g2000cwe.googlegroups.com>, Maggie [quoted text clipped - 27 lines] > tootie fruity stuff that's being served up at the martini bars so > maybe my opinion's worthless to the "real" martini drinkers. Bartender, I'd like to buy these lovely ladies a few of rounds of whatever they'd like and just put it on my tab. Andy > >>>>> In article > >>>>> <1142877771.090776.123140@e56g2000cwe.googlegroups.com>, Maggie [quoted text clipped - 34 lines] > > Andy Cheers! >> >>>>> In article >> >>>>> <1142877771.090776.123140@e56g2000cwe.googlegroups.com>, Maggie [quoted text clipped - 36 lines] >> Andy > Cheers! kling > Bartender, > > I'd like to buy these lovely ladies a few of rounds of whatever they'd > like and just put it on my tab. > Andy How much can I spend? Can we stop at Bloomingdales on the way home? ;-) "Maggie" <lbuset@allsecretarial.com> wrote in news:1142948854.041149.211730 @j33g2000cwa.googlegroups.com: >> Bartender, >> [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > How much can I spend? Can we stop at Bloomingdales on the way home? > ;-) Hmmm... Bloomingdales... on the way home... That's a hell of an offer. Why not! Andy > > Bartender, > > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > How much can I spend? Can we stop at Bloomingdales on the way home? > ;-) Hmm, Bloomies is so cool Saturday a.m. but it's too soon to drink and too early to fly in from Toronto. > > wow, i could never lose weight buying the stuff that you do. granola? > > fattening! banquet chicken? super fattening. > > Granola bars are fattening? I eat granola bars all the time. What is > better to buy...in a bar??? The diet bars are so darn expensive. ThinkOrganic, Larabar, and Clif Nectar. They're all just fruit and nuts, nothing else. >> wow, i could never lose weight buying the stuff that you do. granola? >> fattening! banquet chicken? super fattening. > >Granola bars are fattening? I eat granola bars all the time. What is >better to buy...in a bar??? The diet bars are so darn expensive. Actually it's a granola raisin cereal. Only has 3g of fat per serving (and compared to other stuff I used to snack on, trust me, that's not much.) __ Need a new limb? Pet recently die? Got a problem you think only magic can solve? Visit Dr Kaidian's Necromancy and Body Transplant Site! http://m-allan.home.mchsi.com/wsb/index.html To respond via email, remove the "54". > wow, i could never lose weight buying the stuff that you do. granola? > fattening! banquet chicken? super fattening. I tried a new supermarket this morning and everything was kinda stale compared to my close to home store so I left it in the cart, headed for the library and got a stack of magazines instead. Arrived at home to find many income tax receipts had arrived as well as one fat Robin who surveyed the still freezing temperature and beat a hasty retreat under a tree. Something, maybe the tax stuff, triggered memories of my dietery past. 1946: DuBarry Success course, nine oranges a day for the first three days. 1952; Ladies Home Journal, Fabulous Formula Diet: instant coffee, mazola oil, milk powder and some kind of sweetener in the blender 1956, Stillman and Atkins 1968 up to 185 and 1st try Weight Watchers which failed 1969 2nd try succeded lost 70 1972 regained some 1983-84 on lithium gained 70 1996 Joined ASD.. tried Powter, I was still insane LOL 1997 Montignac Ooh La La a Lot of Pate, wine and chocolate. gained 10 1998 Doctor noticed I weighed 219 1997 Nutri Systems.. loved their gum drops--lost 37 and they fired me said I was cheating cause I plateued after losing every week for six weeks 1997-2000 logged on to ASD somehow lost the balance after the 37 making a total of 86. 200-2006 mainaineing within reason, nipping the butt in the bud when it starts to bubble. 2000 dveloped celiac disease and Chemical senstivities following pneumonia 2006 have manage to keep off almost all of what I lost by 200 The library finally has "French Woman Don't get Fat" so i borrowed it and am settling down with an empty calorie nosh to see if they drink Absinthe there. SignatureDiva ***** Discipline is Liberation Well, this is probably pretty apparent from my food & exercise posts. Generally we buy produce (mostly veggies, not so much fruit, as I have a hard time digesting it), fish, chicken, lower-fat cuts of meat (including Healthy Choice and Hillshire Farm packaged sliced ham, turkey, & roast beef), eggs, lowfat and nonfat dairy (milk, cheese, yogurt), whole grain breads, condiments, cereals (including bran cereal and various fruit & nut things I mix with it; DH likes Wheaties). We usually have a supply of bite-sized dark chocolates as well. And I buy my weekly fix of junky magazines :-). Chris 262/130s/130s started dieting July 2002, maintaining since June 2004 junky magazines are a lot cheaper if you order them > Well, this is probably pretty apparent from my food & exercise posts. > Generally we buy produce (mostly veggies, not so much fruit, as I have [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > 262/130s/130s > started dieting July 2002, maintaining since June 2004 > junky magazines are a lot cheaper if you order them But that would mean admitting you have a habit. Dally i don't know...i have my favorite ones and i do get a fix from them...i try to get them at the library so they are free and if you order them often the first issue is free if you write cancel on the bill...never use a credit card to pay for a magazine...i saw this on tv...renewals and zines you didn't order happen > > junky magazines are a lot cheaper if you order them > > But that would mean admitting you have a habit. > > Dally > i don't know...i have my favorite ones and i do get a fix from them...i > try to get them at the library so they are free and if you order them [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > > > Dally I just got a stack of free mags from the library and am going back to my N.Y. Times book list. In Style, Vogue and Vanity Fair are big yawns these days. Undersized hags, oversized bags, ironed hair, a vacant stare. Are these the women I wanted to be? Diva i think the vacent stare might come from starvation > > i don't know...i have my favorite ones and i do get a fix from them...i > > try to get them at the library so they are free and if you order them [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > > Diva > i think the vacent stare might come from starvation or drugs <g> > > > i don't know...i have my favorite ones and i do get a fix from them...i > > > try to get them at the library so they are free and if you order them [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > > > > Diva > In Style, Vogue and Vanity Fair are big yawns these days. Undersized > hags, oversized bags, ironed hair, a vacant stare. Are these the women > I wanted to be? > Diva Thats what I wanted to be.....Now I will be happy with my oversized bags, being a normal size hag, with nice hair and a give a crap stare. >> junky magazines are a lot cheaper if you order them > >But that would mean admitting you have a habit. > >Dally You got it! :-) Chris 262/130s/130s started dieting July 2002, maintaining since June 2004 My grocery list usually looks like this. London Broil or round steak when local farm raised beef is gone. Shredded Wheat and Bran Fat Free Milk Apples Frozen Veggie, Canned Veggie Natural Peanut Butter Onions, Peppers Canned Beans Low Fat Cream of Mushroom soup Chick Breasts Tuna Salsa Oils, vinegars, spices for marinades Eggbeaters Steel Cut Oatmeal Frozen Berry Medley I do most of my cooking in the crockpot so usually everything I get is crockpot friendly. thanks ...i copied it to take to aldi's and sam's club...the crockpot has become my favorite way to cook > My grocery list usually looks like this. > [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > I do most of my cooking in the crockpot so usually everything I get is > crockpot friendly. |
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