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Jenny - 07 Aug 2006 01:52 GMT Sorry for starting yet another thread, but I really don't feel qualified to help others yet, perhaps when I've started losing some weight i can help....
Anyways, what are some healthy foods I can eat? I know it should like a stupid question, but my eating habits have been really bad and I don't think I really know what is healthy and what is not.
For example, is cereal like Frosted Flakes healthy? It has a lot of vitamins and minerals. What about bread? Are low fat muffins healthy? Is olive oil healthy? Or is it too fattening? What about those Lean Cuisine meals?
I want to go grocery shopping tomorrow and I need to buy some healthy foods.
What do you guys eat? What is a typical day like for you?
KR - 07 Aug 2006 02:02 GMT Frosted Flakes may have lots of vitamins and minerals but I'm sure it has lots of calories as well. You need to get less calories then you burn daily. Choose non sweetened cereals or old fashioned oatmeal and add berries for sweetness. I never add sugar to my cereal as it seems to have quite enough carbs.
Low calorie yogurt, cottage cheese, fruit, vegetables, etc... All perfectly healthy snacks.
Have you tried fitday? My husband and I have both found it great for recent weight loss accomplishements.
KR
> Sorry for starting yet another thread, but I really don't feel > qualified to help others yet, perhaps when I've started losing some [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > > What do you guys eat? What is a typical day like for you? Jenny - 07 Aug 2006 02:13 GMT Thanks for your reply KR.
I should choose unsweetened cereal, but I love the sweetness. :-( Oh well, I have to give up some things.
I hate cottage cheese, don't know if I can eat that.
I've used fitday in the past, but I gave up too soon. Right now I"m trying something new. I'm posting what I eat and the calories here in "My Diet Thread". That way other people will see what I eat and can comment on how I'm doing and what I should change. Also this way might shame me into eating healthier. I mean, it's kind of shameful to write that I ate at McDonalds yet again, so hopefully I won't eat their again.
Jenny - 07 Aug 2006 02:22 GMT What are some foods i could eat for breakfast?
Lunch?
Dinner?
Snacks?
What do you eat? Right now I'm thinking of eating those prepackaged instant oatmeal things for breakfast. Is that a good choice?
For lunch I'm thinking of eating 1/2 a pita with sliced turkey, lettuce, low fat mozzerella cheese and low fat peppercorn ranch dressing.
For dinner, I have no idea.
For snacks I'm thinking nectarines and bananas.
Good?
Lá~ká~ Wáná - 07 Aug 2006 04:18 GMT > What are some foods i could eat for breakfast? Unless you go low-carb: Special-K or other non sweetened cereal. A hard boiled egg sliced on low calorie "Light" bread. Two slices of Light toast with small pat of butter.
> Lunch? Low-calorie bread with sugar-free jelly and fat-free cottage cheese. 1/2 cup fat-free cottage cheese w/tbs. of sugar-free jelly to sweeten and flavor it. Frozen diet entree from the store.
> Dinner? Almost anything but avoid all fried greasy foods and learn PORTION CONTROL. Count calories. If you eat pizza don't go hog wild. Have only 1 slice with a salad w/fat-free dressing.
> Snacks? Fruit. Cooked veggies. Cucumbers, celery, mushrooms. Avoid all fatty foods or high carb snacks.
> What do you eat? Right now I'm thinking of eating those prepackaged > instant oatmeal things for breakfast. Is that a good choice? Try and keep breakfast around 200c or less, unless doing low-carb. Avoid anything with extra sugar.
> For lunch I'm thinking of eating 1/2 a pita with sliced turkey, > lettuce, low fat mozzerella cheese and low fat peppercorn ranch > dressing. > > For dinner, I have no idea. What are you eating now? Can you cut back on the AMOUNT you're eating?
> For snacks I'm thinking nectarines and bananas. Make that 1/2 a banana. They're high calorie, high-carb.
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Jenny - 07 Aug 2006 23:50 GMT Thanks for all the suggestions everyone. I'm going to try to figure out a plan. I bought some Special K cereal today. I wish we had skim milk, but 2% is what we have right now.
Lá~ká~ Wáná - 08 Aug 2006 02:47 GMT > Thanks for all the suggestions everyone. I'm going to try to figure out > a plan. I bought some Special K cereal today. I wish we had skim milk, > but 2% is what we have right now. When that's gone get the fat-free. There are many ways you can cut calories from your diet. Also exercise is important. After my Dr. said I could resume exercise last month (I had a broken knee) I started with 1/4 mi a day and worked up to 2+ miles a day. I also added speed and incline on the Treadmill as the days passed. :o)
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Rachael Reynolds - 08 Aug 2006 08:57 GMT > Thanks for all the suggestions everyone. I'm going to try to figure out > a plan. I bought some Special K cereal today. I wish we had skim milk, > but 2% is what we have right now. Skim milk lasts pretty well so even if your Mum buys 2% you could by skim for you.
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oregonchick - 08 Aug 2006 04:12 GMT > What are some foods i could eat for breakfast? high fiber high protein cereal with skim milk. a protein shake. A nonfat yogurt with artificial sweetener sprinkled with all bran. oatmeal prepared with skim milk and some protein powder.
> Lunch? protein shake. turkey sandwich on high fiber bread.
> Dinner? grilled or baked meat. steamed veggies. brown rice. tabouleh. salad w/vinagrette.
> Snacks? popcorn. soy crisps. fat free fudgecicle.
Mitch@This_is_not_a_real_address.com - 07 Aug 2006 03:39 GMT >For example, is cereal like Frosted Flakes healthy? It has a lot of >vitamins and minerals. What about bread? Are low fat muffins healthy? >Is olive oil healthy? Or is it too fattening? What about those Lean >Cuisine meals? Kick the sugar. Read labels. High fructose corn syrup has to go. "Low fat" things like muffins are usually loaded with sugar.
Lean Cuisine are great, especially the "spa" versions that use whole grains for rice and pasta.
Also, Lean Pockets Ultra are only 200 calories and loaded with fiber.
For breakfast, fruit and/or whole grain cereal like Kashi or Grape Nuts. Or whole grain toast with cinnamon and Splenda.
If you eat white bread, white pasta, white rice, or sugar it will make you hungry again in a short time.
bunker90@hotmail.com - 07 Aug 2006 03:53 GMT > Sorry for starting yet another thread, but I really don't feel > qualified to help others yet, perhaps when I've started losing some [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > > What do you guys eat? What is a typical day like for you? Frosted anything is not your friend, go for an untoasted muesli or something basic like Weetbix or whatever. White bread has to go, find the wholegrain/wholemeal bread with the highest dietary fiber and lowest caloric value. Olive oil is a good option but be aware that from a pure fat point of view it isnt any better than any other oil or spread. It does have plenty of benefits though, I use it as a substitute for margarine by brushing it on toast, topping it with sliced tomato and some cottage cheese for breakfast, good stuff! Limit dairy as much as possible and always use the lowest fat option when it comes to milk and cheese. Lean Cuisine's are not too bad for a quick option I guess but you really cant beat making something yourself. It doesnt get much more simple than grilling a skinless chicken breast and steaming some fresh veggies. You should spent the majority of your time in the supermarket within the fruit and veg section.
Binky - 07 Aug 2006 04:40 GMT >Sorry for starting yet another thread, but I really don't feel >qualified to help others yet, perhaps when I've started losing some >weight i can help.... Start as many threads as you like. This is usenet and there are some subtle differences from web-based forums.
Messages here are treated as individual postings, and most newsreader software (google included) is capable of rendering them into a thread-like format. Usenet (nntp) has no native threading technology. This is my understanding, but someone with more smarts on the subject can certainly set me straight.
You may find it easier to negotiate your blog-like diet postings if you post one subject for each of you diet entries. It will be easier for people to comment on them and easier to organize. You'll find this is the format most people use when posting blog-like entries.
Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho - 07 Aug 2006 08:48 GMT Binky <sink@bgonet.com> kirjoitti 07.08.2006:
> Usenet (nntp) has no native threading technology. This is my > understanding, but someone with more smarts on the subject can > certainly set me straight. You're both right and wrong.
Usenet is essentially a protocol for delivering messages from server to server and between server and client, coupled with policies for how the messages are to be formatted. Usenet does support threading in that those policies recommend that the thread ancesty be recorded in each posting. Threading technology beyond this is simply out of Usenet's scope.
Threading is done by the client, but most servers do provide the service of "group overviews", which speeds it up by a considerable margin.
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Binky - 07 Aug 2006 10:16 GMT >You're both right and wrong. > >Usenet is essentially a protocol for delivering messages from server to >server and between server and client, This part I knew.
> coupled with policies for how the >messages are to be formatted. Usenet does support threading in that >those policies recommend that the thread ancesty be recorded in each >posting. Okay, this part I did not know. Thank you for the clarification.
>Threading technology beyond this is simply out of Usenet's >scope. > >Threading is done by the client, but most servers do provide the service >of "group overviews", which speeds it up by a considerable margin. This I didn't know.
Consider me shamed. I've been exposed to usenet for quite some time and I make my living working with and maintaining networks, yet I never bother to delve deep enough into usenet to know this things. Time for me to go buy a book :P
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Aunt Pam - 31 Aug 2006 17:38 GMT Hi! I am new to this board-I have lost weight but need to lose a bi more-I hope I can help and also receive some information! I agree with everyone else-sugar is not good for any type of diet. M favorite breakfast is 2 egg whites (scrambled), big bowl of fresh fruit yogurt and up to four glasses of water. I think fruits and veggies ar some of the most important things you can include in any diet...an WATER-lots of it. It curbs hunger and also helps burn calories i addition to being an essential element in every bodily function...it importance cannot be stressed too much! I have lost and gained weight over the years due to kidney diseas and transplantation and now I am probably at the healthiest I have bee in a long time, in part due to changing my eating habits. By the way, it is true that once you begin to eat well, you wil begin to crave foods that are good for your body! Best of luck, Pa
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Elizabeth Blake - 07 Aug 2006 04:47 GMT > For example, is cereal like Frosted Flakes healthy? It has a lot of > vitamins and minerals. What about bread? Are low fat muffins healthy? [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > What do you guys eat? What is a typical day like for you? Just because something has vitamins & minerals doesn't mean it's healthy. Eating Frosted Flakes is like eating a bowl of candy with a vitamin thrown in. When you buy cereals, look at the top shelves, which is where they put the healthier stuff, since it's out of most people's vision. All of the garbage will be at eye level and you want to avoid those. You can always add a little sweetener yourself. Plain shredded wheat biscuits are fantastic if you drizzle a little honey on them.
Low fat muffins are full of sugar, even more than regular muffins.
Olive oil is fattening but it's a good fat, much better than butter or the fat you'll find in cookies & candy bars. Doesn't mean you should have a cup of the stuff every day, but for cooking it's a better choice than butter. It's also good for salad dressing - just don't drown your greens!
Some of my typical breakfasts are: Oatmeal, either steel cut or rolled oats (not instant) with fresh or dried fruit & skim/soy milk. I usually add some Equal to mine for sweetness. Thomas' Whole Grain Light English Muffin spread with a wedge of Laughing Cow Light cheese, with one serving of Egg Beaters nuked in a small bowl for a minute and a veggie sausage patty or a slice of ham if I have any. Cold cereal: All Bran Extra Fiber (2 servings) with fresh fruit and skim or soy milk. Sometimes I mix one serving of All Bran with another cereal, like one from Kashi or Special K. Sometimes I do have my favorite junk food cereal - Peanut Butter Cap'n Crunch - and I mis that with the All Bran. Since cold cereal doesn't fill me up I usually have 2 servings of micrwaved Egg Beaters with a little ketchup or salsa on top. 1% cottage cheese with fresh fruit and All Bran. Or, yogurt with fruit & All Bran.
As for Lean Cuisine, I have to say that when I first decided to lose weight those were a BIG help. My freezer was always full of them. I would steam a bunch of broccoli or green beans to go with it, since the meal itself isn't always very filling. I've gotten away from them now but still have them maybe once or twice a month. The Healthy Choice meals were a little more filling than Lean Cuisine.
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Binky - 07 Aug 2006 05:27 GMT >For example, is cereal like Frosted Flakes healthy? It has a lot of >vitamins and minerals. What about bread? Are low fat muffins healthy? >Is olive oil healthy? Or is it too fattening? What about those Lean >Cuisine meals? I've gotten a lot of mileage out of starting my day with a food high in protein. Based on other advice here in the group, my breakfast has become a shake consisting of:
1 serving biochem low-carb whey protein 1/2 medium banana 1/4 cup forzen strawberries 1 1/2 cup skim milk
It's sweet enough and satisfying. Fitday says it's about 317 calories. It gets my through till my scheduled mid-morning snack, which can be fresh fruit or a granola bar or something like that.
>I want to go grocery shopping tomorrow and I need to buy some healthy >foods. > >What do you guys eat? What is a typical day like for you? Interesting you put it this way. One of things that's helped me is becoming more disciplined about *when* I eat. It's forced me to put more thought into what I'm eating I'm less likely to make bad food choices. The weak part of this is when I'm in a situation where I can eat according to the schedule I've set up, but I'm finding I can figure that out as it happens.
It sounds like you're highly bummed out about your food choices- this is understandable but ultimately self-defeating. I can only speak from my own experience over the past few weeks, and I can say that I've felt better and more empowered than I have in many years. Food has only as much control over you as you allow it. You own your body, and you only have to put into what you want it.
Patricia Heil - 08 Aug 2006 00:22 GMT > Sorry for starting yet another thread, but I really don't feel > qualified to help others yet, perhaps when I've started losing some [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > > What do you guys eat? What is a typical day like for you? Lots of vegetables of many kinds. I've been collecting recipes for about 18 months now purposely to have things that use different vegetables. I'm up to 250 and all excellent and they're from all over the world.
Brown rice instead of white. Whole grain pasta if possible, or else I get a spaghetti squash to go with my marinara, Bolognese, or eggplant ragu.
Lots of legumes, e.g. I'm finishing a chickpea stew now and next week for lunch I'll have lamb and lentils.
Whole grain bread which means the first ingredient on the label has to be whole wheat or some other whole grain; if it's enriched unbleached flour, it's not whole grain.
Meats trimmed of fat; some fish; some cheese because I like it MUCH better than milk but if it's not a hard or aged cheese it has lots of fat.
I used to eat a lot of fruit but got out of the habit so I'm working that back in.
I start with a big vegetarian (usually) breakfast and have a middle sized lunch with meat (usually). As a result I'm not very hungry at night and that's when I try to get my fruit. I try to always have veggies in my lunch but I eat some meat/cheese/fish every day because if I don't, my fingernails start to crumble.
I stew things a lot or stir fry, and I try not to deep fry much at all. Maybe a couple times of year when I can't go another day without an egg roll I make a batch at home, usually with only veggies inside. My crockpot is a good friend.
No sodas; they either have too much sugar or they leach calcium from your bones. OK once or twice a year I can't go another day without a Coke, usually when I've been eating chili for some reason. I totally don't get that but it's true. On these hot weekends I like to have Perrier and lemon and lime juice in the fridge and make up some fizzy lemon-lime with a spoonful of sugar and about 1/4 to 1/2 cup juice.
I have a piece of chocolate once or twice a week.
I use one teaspoon of real sugar in my coffee or tea in the morning.
I don't eat doughnuts or other sweet breads much. Had a piece of somebody's birthday cake last week, the first in over a year. If I get rugelach for the office at my kosher store, I'll usually have one -- that happens about 3 times a year.
oregonchick - 08 Aug 2006 04:09 GMT > Sorry for starting yet another thread, but I really don't feel > qualified to help others yet, perhaps when I've started losing some [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > For example, is cereal like Frosted Flakes healthy? Frosted flakes, along with other cereals that have "lots of vitamins" get their vitamins from a spray. They spray the otherwise virtually useless flakes to give them some nutritional value. If you must eat cereal, try something like raisin bran, all bran, Smart Start, Kashi Go Lean Crunch, etc. Look at the nutrition label - is there at least 5g of protein and 5g of fiber? Forget the vitamins. Look at calories, protein, fiber, fat content. Do you dislike oatmeal? Buy some Quaker instant, make it with nonfat milk, put a little whey protein or peanut butter in it. It is much healthier than frosted flakes.
It has a lot of
> vitamins and minerals. What about bread? Again, check the label. Look for bread with at least 3g of fiber per slice, but even better up around 5g per slice.
Are low fat muffins healthy?
low fat does NOT equal healthy. Low fat simply means low in fat. They still contain a HUGE amount of EMPTY calories. On your tight calorie budget, you simply cannot waste the calories on empty filler.
> Is olive oil healthy? it is healthier than butter.
Or is it too fattening?
It still has as many calories in it as butter, so yeah, it's still fattening. You still have to count all the calories, and there's 120 per tablespoon.
What about those Lean
> Cuisine meals? Uh, I eat them occasionally, but IMO, they suck as far as taste. Still the Lean Cuisine and Healthy Choice, as well as the newer South Beach Diet meals do offer less calories and a more balanced meal. I'm especially fond of the SB pizzas which have a ton of fiber and protein and only 330 calories. If you are looking to eliminate the "thinking" aspect from your diet somewhat, then frozen diet meals could fit the bill. In the long run though you will still need to learn how to eat.
> I want to go grocery shopping tomorrow and I need to buy some healthy > foods. You need to shop the perimeter of the store. That's where you'll find dairy, meats, cheeses, fruits, veggies and breads. Avoid the highly processed crap in the middle...
Here's a basic list of things to eat dairy - non fat milk, nonfat yogurt, reduced fat cottage cheese, reduced fat string cheese meat - lean meats, chicken and turkey breast, ground turkey breast in place of burger, lean cuts of beef. Avoid breading or frying your meats. Try grilling or broiling. fruits and veggies - fresh, any and all breads and pasta - whole wheat high fiber. check the label for fiber content. you need 25g of fiber per day.
avoid things like white breads, white pasta, white potatoes, fruit drinks, full sugar sodas, sugary cereals, canned vegetables, processed foods like raviolis, soups, etc.
> What do you guys eat? What is a typical day like for you? Um, I'd tell you, but I can already tell you wouldn't eat what I do. I eat the way I do because I want.........really badly.............to lose weight and be healthy. I have reached the point that you haven't yet. To eat according to what my body needs, not what my tongue wants.
jmm1951@gmail.com - 09 Aug 2006 19:57 GMT > Sorry for starting yet another thread, but I really don't feel > qualified to help others yet, perhaps when I've started losing some [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > I want to go grocery shopping tomorrow and I need to buy some healthy > foods. This is actually a fascinating question to which no one can give a precise answer, because what constitutes "healthiness" in foods depends on a number of factors.
For example, the Total Parenteral Nutrition intravenous feeding that you get in hospitals when your digestive system is out of commission must be healthy, as it meeds all your nutritional needs, yet by any definition it is nearly all "empty calories".
Foods can basically be broken down into three types, protein, fats, and carbohydrates--then you also have vitamins and minerals.
Although there are one or two exceptions, basically proteins and fats come from animal products (meat, fish, and dairy) and carbohydrates come from vegetable products (fruits, vegetables, grains, sugars, alcoholic drinks).
There are a few exceptions. For example nuts and beans may contain some protein, and oils from vegetable products are more like fats (e.g. olives, peanuts), though chemically a bit different.
Each of these types of food meets certain nutritional needs and is processed in the body in slightly different ways, and affects various internal organs differently.
Any time your bodyis chronically short of a necessary nutrient, then you will run into problems. For example, your blood needs iron and salt. Generally we will get iron and salt from eating meat products. If we cut out meat and have a diet without salt, we may need to find other sources of these chemicals, like vitamin pills. Too much salt affects some people who have high blood pressure adversely, but commercial salt has iodine added to it, without which your thyroid gland may fail, so to completely eradicate salt could adversely affect your health.
Hence (thanks for bearing with me), it is very difficult to say exactly which food is healthy, except that what you probably need is a balanced diet that includes various different types of nutrients.
Exactly what you should eat is impossible to say, because people's eating habits are ingrained by the culture they grow up in. For example, I have Mexican tenants, and their diet does not go much beyond beer, sodas, tacos, ground meat, chillies, salad, and rice, and they seem to be perfectly healthy.None are overweight, but that may be because they also work in manual labor.
The other day I was getting my oil changed at Walmart and had a little time to kill. In their book section I was looking at a book by a woman called Joyce Meyer, who is one of these preacher/guru/lifestyle consultant people who has got to be immensely rich by telling the rest of us how to live.
A page caught my eye, where she extolled the virtues of eating well, and mentioned that sometimes she gets tempted to have a hamburger "with all the fixings", but that you just have to resist the temptation.
Now what does she mean? I agree that a hamburger from a fast food place is a pretty unpleasant, soggy, nasty little thing, especially when taken with limp french fries and a sweet drink. But is this what Ms. Meyer means by a hamburger? I very much doubt that she eats in such places. She probably has hired help to cook for her.
At the time of writing I had a hamburger five minutes ago, which I prepared in my kitchen. A ground beef patty was fried yesterday, then refridgerated. To warm it up, it was placed in th microwave in a plastic bag for 45 seconds, which helped to drain off some more of the fat. It was then placed inside a toasted onion roll, and overlaid with a slice of fresh tomato, a slice of fresh raw onion, some Romaine lettuce, some fresh homemade salsa, a little garlic, and then eaten.
In truth it was nothing special, but was it any worse healthwise than any other meal made from bread, ground meat, and salad items? I don't think so. And does Ms. Meyer avoid any dish prepared with ground beef on health grounds? I don't know.
Anyway, after this preamble, here are my recommendations, for what they are worth.
1. Avoid all processed, preprepared foods. Buy basic ingredients as fresh as possible and fix the meals yourself. If you have to take food on the road or to work, carry it in a cooler. Also make your own drinks and do likewise.
2. Avoid all national brand name foods, because this will be healthier on your finances.
3. Avoid all foods that are advertised as for for dieting, low-fat, low sugar etc. for the same reason. They are nearly always a con. Once I stopped at a Hardee's to see what their advertised "low carb hamburger" was all about. It was a beet patty wrapped in a lettuce leaf with no bread. Most diet foods are also a joke.
4. Eat LESS. Eat smaller portions, don't snack between meals. Have a good breakfast. Go to bed hungry--millions of others do--every night of their lives.
5. Find some way to measure how much you are eating. For example buy your week's supplies and weight it all. Weigh again at the same time next week to see how much you have consumed. If you don't lose weight, then reduce your intake more. If you live with a family, you may have to separate out your food from theirs, which is a hassle, but, hey, this is serious business.
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