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smchant22@yahoo.com - 29 Aug 2006 22:37 GMT
wondering about sauna belt... and i realize that even if it works, you
can probably replicate it with two of those heating pads for your
back...

i've seen everyone scoff and say it's just water loss....

but i was wondering the following things:

1) is it just water loss? aren't you losing salt and minerals as well?

2) when you exercise and sweat, isn't that burning off some fat? can
someone explain scientifically how this is different?

3) if you cook bacon, it's definitely giving off alot of fat in
addition to water and salt? check the pan, that isn't just water.

4) if you cooked your belly fat, isn't it going to give up more than
water?

yes, i know the sauna belt is for suckers (replicate it for $15 if it
works), but wondering why it wouldn't work to a certain extent beyond
water loss?

thanks in advance for enlightened responses!
oregonchick - 29 Aug 2006 22:43 GMT
> wondering about sauna belt... and i realize that even if it works, you
> can probably replicate it with two of those heating pads for your
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>
> 1) is it just water loss? aren't you losing salt and minerals as well?

When you sweat, you sweat out salt.  So, yes, when there is "water loss"
there is also mineral loss.  What difference does it make?

> 2) when you exercise and sweat, isn't that burning off some fat? can
> someone explain scientifically how this is different?

When you exercise, you burn fat because the body is actually metabolizing
the fat into a useable energy source.  You aren't just sweating it out.

> 3) if you cook bacon, it's definitely giving off alot of fat in
> addition to water and salt? check the pan, that isn't just water.

No sh.t.  Are you joking here?

> 4) if you cooked your belly fat, isn't it going to give up more than
> water?

Ok, hop in the frying pan.  That's what it would take to cook your belly
fat.

> yes, i know the sauna belt is for suckers (replicate it for $15 if it
> works), but wondering why it wouldn't work to a certain extent beyond
> water loss?
>
> thanks in advance for enlightened responses!

Uh, no, it wouldn't work to any extent except to lighten your wallet.
smchant22@yahoo.com - 29 Aug 2006 22:51 GMT
> > wondering about sauna belt... and i realize that even if it works, you
> > can probably replicate it with two of those heating pads for your
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> When you exercise, you burn fat because the body is actually metabolizing
> the fat into a useable energy source.  You aren't just sweating it out.

explain why that's not the case when you heat up your body... please
cite a reference.

> > 3) if you cook bacon, it's definitely giving off alot of fat in
> > addition to water and salt? check the pan, that isn't just water.
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> Ok, hop in the frying pan.  That's what it would take to cook your belly
> fat.

fat separates itself from the body at a very high temperature, but not
at a somewhat higher temperature.... leave lard out in the sun and it
melts. that's not 400 degrees or anything.

> > yes, i know the sauna belt is for suckers (replicate it for $15 if it
> > works), but wondering why it wouldn't work to a certain extent beyond
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>
> Uh, no, it wouldn't work to any extent except to lighten your wallet.

oregonchick, that's for responding but you don't seem highly informed.
i think you're guessing just like me.
oregonchick - 29 Aug 2006 23:11 GMT
>> > wondering about sauna belt... and i realize that even if it works, you
>> > can probably replicate it with two of those heating pads for your
[quoted text clipped - 43 lines]
> oregonchick, that's for responding but you don't seem highly informed.
> i think you're guessing just like me.

http://www.one4fitness.com/modules/sauna-pro/

Sauna Pro Belt Review

The Sauna Pro belt is unfortunately basically the same type of product as
the Velform Sauna Belt.  If you have missed our review for the Velform Sauna
Belt then be forewarned that there was nothing positive about it.  To be
blunt, these products are really nothing but a scam.  Applying heat to one
body part is not going to melt the fat away.  Yes, at first you may lose a
little weight and size on your midsection but that is because you have
sweated water, not fat, out of your system.

The bottom line is that there is not magic pill, magic workout program or
even magic belt that is going to melt fat away.  Most people do not want to
believe this but it is important to point out that it takes a good diet and
exercise program to achieve a great body.  To be blunt again, it just takes
hard work for most people to achieve their goals.  Now some people are
genetically gifted and can burn fat faster than others but the bottom line
is that Sauna belts do not work for anyone.  It is unfortunate that people
get suckered into these types of gimmicky products and waste their hard
earned cash on them.

So, do we recommend the Sauna Pro belt, Velform Sauna Belt or any other
Sauna Type belt system out there?  Enthusiastically NO!  We do not recommend
these types of products at all!  Their claims are false and anyone
purchasing one of these gimmicks is wasting their hard earned money
oregonchick - 29 Aug 2006 23:13 GMT
>> > wondering about sauna belt... and i realize that even if it works, you
>> > can probably replicate it with two of those heating pads for your
[quoted text clipped - 43 lines]
> oregonchick, that's for responding but you don't seem highly informed.
> i think you're guessing just like me.

http://www.3fatchicks.com/forum/showthread.php?p=735494
Rachael Reynolds - 29 Aug 2006 23:55 GMT
>> > wondering about sauna belt... and i realize that even if it works, you
>> > can probably replicate it with two of those heating pads for your
[quoted text clipped - 43 lines]
> oregonchick, that's for responding but you don't seem highly informed.
> i think you're guessing just like me.

Your body fat is not, unfortunately, lying around in your body like a lump
of lard.  It's held within fat cells so it can't just melt away.  That your
heart rate might be up a little may mean you lose a little more weight by
your metabolism being raised but that is not the same thing.  The only way
the fat cells will give up fat is if the body calls on them for energy.

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Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho - 30 Aug 2006 18:47 GMT
smchant22@yahoo.com <smchant22@yahoo.com> kirjoitti 29.08.2006:
>> When you exercise, you burn fat because the body is actually metabolizing
>> the fat into a useable energy source.  You aren't just sweating it out.
>
> explain why that's not the case when you heat up your body... please
> cite a reference.

When your body heats up, the energy must come from somewhere.  When you
exercise, the energy comes from your metabolism, which may be burning
your fat.  When you heat the body using a sauna belt, the energy comes
from the sauna belt and not from your metabolism, hence no fat is
burned.

> fat separates itself from the body at a very high temperature, but not
> at a somewhat higher temperature.... leave lard out in the sun and it
> melts. that's not 400 degrees or anything.

How do you know that the fat in your body isn't already in liquid form?
In other words, how does the hypothetical melting of your fat help
anything?  It still stays in your body.

> oregonddchick, that's for responding but you don't seem highly informed.
> i think you're guessing just like me.

You might want to read up on metabolism and on bodily functions in
general.  Once you have the background, this stuff is not rocket
science.
MRV - 30 Aug 2006 04:43 GMT
> wondering about sauna belt... and i realize that even if it works, you
> can probably replicate it with two of those heating pads for your
> back...

The problem is thermoregulation, the body will maintain the same
internal temperature despite the sauna belt or heating pads. If one can
manage to overcome this "problem", they have much more to worry about
than excess fat.
Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho - 30 Aug 2006 18:39 GMT
smchant22@yahoo.com <smchant22@yahoo.com> kirjoitti 29.08.2006:
> 2) when you exercise and sweat, isn't that burning off some fat? can
> someone explain scientifically how this is different?

Your body sweats because it is hot.

Sauna causes your body to be hot.

When you exercise, you are in effect burning sugar, which is turned
partly into kinetic energy and partly in the heat.  The heat causes your
body to be hot.

(The sugar you burn in exercise may come from many sources.  One of them
is your fat: when other sources of sugar get emptied, the body takes
some of your fat and turns it into sugar and some waste products that
goes into your urine.)

> 3) if you cook bacon, it's definitely giving off alot of fat in
> addition to water and salt? check the pan, that isn't just water.

True.

> 4) if you cooked your belly fat, isn't it going to give up more than
> water?

Yes.  You'd also die.
 
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